# Giulia and Mogy Discuss Friendship, Guendalina and Independence

- Original post: https://www.twitter.com/i/status/2119431139420983732
- Source account: [@mascos69](https://x.com/mascos69)
- Source language: Italian
- Target language: English
- Duration: 5:47
- Published: 2026-11-08
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- Canonical URL: https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence
- Original-language version: https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/it/giulia-e-mogy-discutono-di-amicizia-guendalina-e-autonomia.md

## Transcript

[0:00](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence) I don't like it. I don't feel like it. I don't feel like talking.

[0:03](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=3) You shouldn't have to be told what to do or what not to do.

[0:06](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=6) I'm fed up with you always talking about me. Talk about yourselves.

[0:10](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=10) But I do talk about myself. I always question myself, I'm the first person to question myself about everything, from A to Z, and you know that because I talk about it with you, too.

[0:22](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=22) The only argument I've had with Guendalina, which was...

[0:25](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=25) And we're friends. We had a small spat, and that's our business. Okay.

[0:29](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=29) I thank you for the advice you gave me in general, not to let anyone tell me what...

[0:33](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=33) I appreciate it, but not for telling me how I should base my friendships or how much a person is— I'm not telling you that. I'm telling you what I think.

[0:41](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=41) Because Guendalina may have every flaw in the world, She's chaotic, but she's on my side and has proven to be a friend.

[0:46](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=46) I'm on your side too, Giuli, otherwise, I wouldn't have come yesterday three hundred thousand times to look for you because I care about you, and I swear I was really, personally, hurt by it.

[0:54](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=54) But I understand that, but right now, I— I care about you so much, I see you, I've seen you since the day— I mean, I've always seen you, I recognize you as the pure, genuine person you are, sensitive in your vulnerabilities,

[1:06](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=66) where I see so much of myself, and where you know we also have so many things that we experience the same way.

[1:12](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=72) That's why I was hurt. But I'm fed up, Mogy, with everyone now— And that's okay, Giuli.

[1:17](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=77) Everyone has to tell me what I should and shouldn't do, what I...

[1:19](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=79) I mean, as if I were some kind of doormat— Giulia, I care about you anyway.

[1:24](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=84) And I hope that once all this tension is over, we can— —start talking, have a normal relationship, because I really care about you.

[1:33](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=93) Okay. I can honestly tell you that after 50 days of everyone— of so many people thinking that someone tells me, someone tells me what to do— as if I couldn't think for myself, I don't agree with that. I'm fed up.

[1:45](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=105) You can't compare what happened with Alex or with other people to what happened with me, Giuli.

[1:51](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=111) But that's fine, you're free to do as you wish, we're all fed up, we're at the end of our rope.

[1:56](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=116) I accept it, it's fine, I accept it, but I don't agree with it, Ame, I'll come to terms with it.

[2:01](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=121) That doesn't change the fact that I still care about you.

[2:03](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=123) I took a step back with you, you didn't put up a wall, okay?

[2:06](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=126) No, you put up a wall between us. Yesterday, you even snapped at me.

[2:09](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=129) Come on. I snapped at you because you got involved in the situation with Federica, and it was really difficult.

[2:13](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=133) But here—here everyone has to say— I mean, you know too, if you say it, it's not okay, and if you don't say it, it's not okay. I mean, what is someone supposed to do?

[2:20](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=140) Yes, but you're the one who spoke to me yesterday, you should've said it to Federica, you should've said it to Guendalina because…

[2:25](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=145) I said, "Let's just see," sorry, but let's not go back to old stuff.

[2:29](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=149) Yesterday I wanted to be on my own for a while, okay?

[2:31](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=151) Fine, I accept that. Take your time, maybe you'll change your mind.

[2:36](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=156) Fine, I'm just telling you I'm really sorry.

[2:37](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=157) Sure, I'll probably change my mind, I'll probably change my mind.

[2:40](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=160) I'm really sorry, it's understandable that for now you're sticking to how you feel, okay.

[2:44](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=164) Regardless of whether there were influences or not, I know, and I'm certain that you were hurt.

[2:50](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=170) I didn't want this thing to cast doubt on the relationship I have with you because I really care about you with all my heart.

[2:55](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=175) I care about you too, but I simply noticed that— Really, in that moment I made a choice because I care about Vale too, and I was sure you had people, and Vale didn't— I'm telling you again, today is Sunday, and someone who cares about me and respects me doesn't question my authenticity,

[3:12](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=192) the fact that I don't create, I don't do things for the sake of it.

[3:14](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=194) But you were in your own bubble all day yesterday, so I said— Oh, so if someone spends a day on their own because they want to think, that's reason enough to make someone think that I could create a dynamic or something behind it.

[3:25](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=205) You— all this schem— I can't scheme things out.

[3:29](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=209) Mogy, I'm someone who can't scheme things out.

[3:31](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=211) The thought crossed my mind, but maybe that's not the case, I won't— I mean, I'm not saying mine is the absolute truth, I'm telling you my truth and what I think, I've told you. Okay, that's what you think.

[3:38](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=218) I'm telling you that if someone on a Saturday goes off on their own because I feel like it, since we live together here, I feel like taking a moment for myself, can't one day, just one day, make someone who cares about me think— Have I ever forced you?

[3:52](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=232) Wait, make someone who cares about me think that I'm plotting strategies.

[3:57](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=237) One day I go lie on a sun lounger rather than talk to you? No, no, no.

[4:01](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=241) This happened one evening, one day. One day, after this great friendship you say you have, and, and... and the affection you say you feel for me, one day when I'm on a sun lounger rather than on the little sofa talking to you,

[4:12](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=252) could make you think I'm a strategist? It's not just that, it's the wall you've put up.

[4:18](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=258) Yeah, but Megan, I never thought that about you.

[4:20](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=260) Well, maybe because I never gave you a reason to.

[4:23](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=263) Maybe because I never gave you a reason to. See? I gave you a reason to think that.

[4:26](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=266) In that moment, yes, but because I didn't understand.

[4:29](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=269) But okay, Giulia, fine, we have different thoughts.

[4:33](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=273) I tried, I tried to come to you, to clear things up and find common ground, but—But I don't want to talk about this now, because if you think that I could be a strategist because on a sunny Saturday I sat on the sun lounger rather than talk to you.

[4:47](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=287) Amen, but maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's not like that. I doubt it.

[4:49](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=289) But someone who knows me can't think that.

[4:51](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=291) Amen, maybe I don't know you well enough, maybe I'll get to know you better from this, too.

[4:56](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=296) Amen, that's fine. I'll come to terms with it. That's it. Perfect.

[5:00](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=300) And I repeat to you that, to me, someone who has gotten to know me and knows me can't, because one day I'm on a sun lounger rather than on the little sofa talking to you, call me a schemer or even just think that I make plans.

[5:12](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=312) Well, I said maybe deep down, she wants to stand her ground, then come on the show and own up.

[5:17](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=317) Yes, because I especially need that. I didn't do that. I created a whole lot of drama in here, in fact, I'm known for that in this season.

[5:24](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=324) All right, Giuli.

[5:27](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=327) Amen. I created a ton of dynamics. I was the most...

[5:34](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/50FgdOtjLE03/en/giulia-and-mogy-discuss-friendship-guendalina-and-independence?t=334) Amen. You probably think about the dynamics, not me.
