# Куликовська битва: чи втік Дмитро Донський і ким був Мамай

- Original post: https://www.twitter.com/i/status/2090803396320100659
- Source account: [@Feniks134186](https://x.com/Feniks134186)
- Source language: Ukrainian
- Duration: 2:10
- Published: 2026-08-21
- Canonical URL: https://www.translate.mom/transcript/56xUohAF4B7K/uk/%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0-%D1%87%D0%B8-%D0%B2%D1%82%D1%96%D0%BA-%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%96-%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BC-%D0%B1%D1%83%D0%B2-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9

## Transcript

[0:00](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/56xUohAF4B7K/uk/%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0-%D1%87%D0%B8-%D0%B2%D1%82%D1%96%D0%BA-%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%96-%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BC-%D0%B1%D1%83%D0%B2-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9) По поводу Куликовской битвы. Чё там в Куликовской битве не так?

[0:04](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/56xUohAF4B7K/uk/%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0-%D1%87%D0%B8-%D0%B2%D1%82%D1%96%D0%BA-%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%96-%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BC-%D0%B1%D1%83%D0%B2-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9?t=4) Я думал, вы скажете, что ее не было. В каком году?

[0:07](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/56xUohAF4B7K/uk/%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0-%D1%87%D0%B8-%D0%B2%D1%82%D1%96%D0%BA-%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%96-%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BC-%D0%B1%D1%83%D0%B2-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9?t=7) В тысяча триста восьмидесятом. И Дмитрий Донской, извините, конечно, за слово, сдрыстнул с битвы, переоделся в обыкновенного, там, воина и убег.

[0:19](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/56xUohAF4B7K/uk/%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0-%D1%87%D0%B8-%D0%B2%D1%82%D1%96%D0%BA-%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%96-%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BC-%D0%B1%D1%83%D0%B2-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9?t=19) Куда? А куда он убе-- Не помню, куда убег. Это уже если вы напомните, я буду вам благодарен.

[0:25](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/56xUohAF4B7K/uk/%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0-%D1%87%D0%B8-%D0%B2%D1%82%D1%96%D0%BA-%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%96-%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BC-%D0%B1%D1%83%D0%B2-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9?t=25) А убегал от кого? От битвы, представляете? Проявил малодушие.

[0:31](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/56xUohAF4B7K/uk/%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0-%D1%87%D0%B8-%D0%B2%D1%82%D1%96%D0%BA-%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%96-%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BC-%D0%B1%D1%83%D0%B2-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9?t=31) Так куда он убег, подскажите? Так не представляю я такого малодушия, потому что битва была выиграна.

[0:37](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/56xUohAF4B7K/uk/%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0-%D1%87%D0%B8-%D0%B2%D1%82%D1%96%D0%BA-%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%96-%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BC-%D0%B1%D1%83%D0%B2-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9?t=37) Ну, битва-то, возможно, и была выиграна, только Дмитрий Донской убег.

[0:41](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/56xUohAF4B7K/uk/%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0-%D1%87%D0%B8-%D0%B2%D1%82%D1%96%D0%BA-%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%96-%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BC-%D0%B1%D1%83%D0%B2-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9?t=41) Мне интересно, а из каких источников такая информация?

[0:45](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/56xUohAF4B7K/uk/%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0-%D1%87%D0%B8-%D0%B2%D1%82%D1%96%D0%BA-%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%96-%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BC-%D0%B1%D1%83%D0%B2-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9?t=45) Во всех, начиная от Карамзина и заканчивая Ключевским. Открываете Карамзина "История государства Российского", да читаете о Куликовской битве.

[0:57](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/56xUohAF4B7K/uk/%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0-%D1%87%D0%B8-%D0%B2%D1%82%D1%96%D0%BA-%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%96-%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BC-%D0%B1%D1%83%D0%B2-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9?t=57) Нет, так никогда не будет. Никогда не будет. Та ты шо? Та да, та пойдешь лесом тогда. Весь прикол Куликовской битвы навіть не в тому, що до сьогоднішнього дня, ну, не знайшли поля, на якому це відбувалось. Хоча там в Росії десь біля цього поля є музей,

[1:13](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/56xUohAF4B7K/uk/%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0-%D1%87%D0%B8-%D0%B2%D1%82%D1%96%D0%BA-%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%96-%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BC-%D0%B1%D1%83%D0%B2-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9?t=73) там і так, ну, все як положено. Біда в тому, що ця Куликовська битва чи Мамаєво, там, побоїще, що росіяни на той момент билися з Мамаєм, який був якобы претендент на престол ханський в Орді.

[1:28](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/56xUohAF4B7K/uk/%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0-%D1%87%D0%B8-%D0%B2%D1%82%D1%96%D0%BA-%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%96-%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BC-%D0%B1%D1%83%D0%B2-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9?t=88) Насправді це був заколотник і сепаратист, і росіяни, підтримуючи центральний уряд Золотої Орди, розбили заколотника і сепаратиста.

[1:38](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/56xUohAF4B7K/uk/%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0-%D1%87%D0%B8-%D0%B2%D1%82%D1%96%D0%BA-%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%96-%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BC-%D0%B1%D1%83%D0%B2-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9?t=98) І чомусь в російській стер-- історіографії оце дєло подається як якась там, ну, видатна битва росіян з монголами, там, та-та-та, та-та-та і так дальше.

[1:49](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/56xUohAF4B7K/uk/%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0-%D1%87%D0%B8-%D0%B2%D1%82%D1%96%D0%BA-%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%96-%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BC-%D0%B1%D1%83%D0%B2-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9?t=109) Насправді воно отак вот. А организатор цієї как бы битвы господин Дмитрий Донской дійсно сдрыстнул з поля, вот, а потом виїхав, як то кажуть, на білом коні: "А я победил".

[2:01](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/56xUohAF4B7K/uk/%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0-%D1%87%D0%B8-%D0%B2%D1%82%D1%96%D0%BA-%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%96-%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BC-%D0%B1%D1%83%D0%B2-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9?t=121) А победили незаконного претендента на ханський престол, підтримуючи центральний уряд.

[2:08](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/56xUohAF4B7K/uk/%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0-%D1%87%D0%B8-%D0%B2%D1%82%D1%96%D0%BA-%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%96-%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BC-%D0%B1%D1%83%D0%B2-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9?t=128) Ну, все як росіяни люблять.
