# Debate on Vinicius, hostile crowds and freedom to celebrate

- Original post: https://www.twitter.com/i/status/2093332159016648907
- Source account: [@ClaudiaReznik](https://x.com/ClaudiaReznik)
- Source language: Spanish
- Target language: English
- Duration: 1:12
- Published: 2026-08-28
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- Original-language version: https://www.translate.mom/transcript/CaRblKnIq8OV/es/debate-sobre-el-trato-a-vinicius-y-su-libertad-para-celebrar.md

## Transcript

[0:00](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/CaRblKnIq8OV/en/debate-on-vinicius-hostile-crowds-and-freedom-to-celebrate) He doesn't have the freedom to dance, but Cristiano Ronaldo did, taking Alfredo's example, to celebrate by going "shh," looking at the stands.

[0:05](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/CaRblKnIq8OV/en/debate-on-vinicius-hostile-crowds-and-freedom-to-celebrate?t=5) But Vinicius doesn't have the freedom to dance.

[0:07](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/CaRblKnIq8OV/en/debate-on-vinicius-hostile-crowds-and-freedom-to-celebrate?t=7) So, the focus changes depending on the player.

[0:09](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/CaRblKnIq8OV/en/debate-on-vinicius-hostile-crowds-and-freedom-to-celebrate?t=9) And that's where we talk about the persecution a player suffers for— That's not true.

[0:12](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/CaRblKnIq8OV/en/debate-on-vinicius-hostile-crowds-and-freedom-to-celebrate?t=12) For me, Mourinho's message is completely right.

[0:14](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/CaRblKnIq8OV/en/debate-on-vinicius-hostile-crowds-and-freedom-to-celebrate?t=14) I think what he refers to as bullying, in quotes here, refers to the sporting aspect. He faces, every matchday he plays away from the Bernabéu, even in stadiums he has never set foot in in his life, a hostile atmosphere.

[0:23](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/CaRblKnIq8OV/en/debate-on-vinicius-hostile-crowds-and-freedom-to-celebrate?t=23) Why does Vinicius have to put up with it?

[0:24](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/CaRblKnIq8OV/en/debate-on-vinicius-hostile-crowds-and-freedom-to-celebrate?t=24) How long does Vinicius have to put up with it?

[0:25](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/CaRblKnIq8OV/en/debate-on-vinicius-hostile-crowds-and-freedom-to-celebrate?t=25) Is it normal that he walks onto a pitch and the whole stadium calls him "beach ball" and they laugh at you, and a player comes and kicks you to provoke you, and that even your coach tells you you can't celebrate goals to avoid provoking the opponent?

[0:36](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/CaRblKnIq8OV/en/debate-on-vinicius-hostile-crowds-and-freedom-to-celebrate?t=36) I mean, even the best thing in football, which is scoring, you have to follow your coach's orders that you can't let off steam and celebrate.

[0:42](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/CaRblKnIq8OV/en/debate-on-vinicius-hostile-crowds-and-freedom-to-celebrate?t=42) He doesn't have the freedom to dance, but Cristiano Ronaldo did, taking Alfredo's example, to celebrate by going "shh," looking at the stands and being defiant towards the crowd. But Vinicius doesn't have the freedom to dance.

[0:51](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/CaRblKnIq8OV/en/debate-on-vinicius-hostile-crowds-and-freedom-to-celebrate?t=51) So, the focus changes depending on the player.

[0:53](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/CaRblKnIq8OV/en/debate-on-vinicius-hostile-crowds-and-freedom-to-celebrate?t=53) And that's where we talk about the persecution a player suffers for— That's not true.

[0:56](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/CaRblKnIq8OV/en/debate-on-vinicius-hostile-crowds-and-freedom-to-celebrate?t=56) Because football is largely to blame for his behavior.

[0:58](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/CaRblKnIq8OV/en/debate-on-vinicius-hostile-crowds-and-freedom-to-celebrate?t=58) That's not true. But how far does it go, where do we draw the line on what's allows.

[1:01](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/CaRblKnIq8OV/en/debate-on-vinicius-hostile-crowds-and-freedom-to-celebrate?t=61) I've never seen at the stadium gates any, uh, chants like the ones made against Vinicius. Never.

[1:06](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/CaRblKnIq8OV/en/debate-on-vinicius-hostile-crowds-and-freedom-to-celebrate?t=66) Nor has an effigy in Cristiano's shirt been hung, as was done with Vinicius.

[1:09](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/CaRblKnIq8OV/en/debate-on-vinicius-hostile-crowds-and-freedom-to-celebrate?t=69) I mean, I think setting a limit