# Learjet 60 Crash: Pilot Experience, Turbulence and Cockpit Decisions - Original post: https://www.twitter.com/i/status/2117735342308737234 - Source account: [@RealCrispyDrums](https://x.com/RealCrispyDrums) - Source language: English - Duration: 1:43 - Published: 2026-11-04 - Canonical URL: https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions ## Transcript [0:00](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions) The woman involved in the Learjet 60 crash, Natalia Figueras, had only 1300 hours of flight experience, and that is actually really low to be a co-pilot for a Learjet 60. Most operators want at least usually 1500 to 2000 hours. [0:14](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions?t=14) Here's a video of her saying the line does not concern herself with the center line. [0:18](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions?t=18) This is just, it's not looking good for female pilots, bro, just women in general. [0:22](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions?t=22) Here's a random log from Jay from the plane incident from the same girl in the cockpit. You can literally hear her struggling to give active and accurate comms. [0:30](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions?t=30) November Two Bravo Delta, why are you climbing? [0:31](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions?t=31) We're just above the runway. Expect continued moderate chop and unpredictable wind gusts, November Two Bravo Delta. [0:35](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions?t=35) That's, that's not moderate. Descend to 4000 immediately. [0:37](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions?t=37) Traffic alert, 11 o'clock, four miles, identification unknown, making a golf Raymond climb. [0:40](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions?t=40) Confirm just moderate, November Two Bravo Delta? [0:42](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions?t=42) Yep, moderate chop, sir. If you can't maintain altitude, that's not moderate, that's severe turbulence. Are you experiencing severe turbulence? [0:46](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions?t=46) Two Bravo Delta, are you experiencing severe turbulence? [0:48](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions?t=48) Roger. Affirmative. A lot of people have been telling me, "Dude, she's not the main pilot. [0:52](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions?t=52) She's the co-pilot." But do you not understand that everyone collectively in the pit makes a decision? [0:57](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions?t=57) The co-pilot's job is to monitor and speak up, and guess what she was doing instead of doing that? Texting her boyfriend. [1:04](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions?t=64) She was texting about the ice and turbulence, and looking at your phone and texting during that is really stupid. This is the main pilot, Jeff Gregory. [1:10](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions?t=70) Everyone in that pit made a really dumb decision that day. [1:13](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions?t=73) They actually requested from ATC to deviate from the convective cell. [1:16](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions?t=76) They were given permission, and they decided to fly right into the convective cell. [1:20](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions?t=80) Also, the NTSB, the National Transportation Safety Board, said they don't even know who took control. [1:25](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions?t=85) Would she have been at the controls or simply prolonging communication? [1:27](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions?t=87) We don't yet know that, and that is one of the things that we'll, we'll seek to determine. [1:32](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions?t=92) That's my biggest thing is, like, don't they say that in comms if someone takes control or something like that? Like, how do they not know? [1:37](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/QawBnykAnn2T/en/learjet-60-crash-pilot-experience-turbulence-and-cockpit-decisions?t=97) Yet again, this could have all been prevented, and I question the credentials of the main pilot and the co-pilot