# Роль США в протестах на Майдане: Нуланд, Маккейн и Байден

- Original post: https://www.twitter.com/i/status/1969464255398494663
- Source account: [@ivan_8848](https://x.com/ivan_8848)
- Source language: Russian
- Duration: 2:20
- Published: 2026-11-09
- Canonical URL: https://www.translate.mom/transcript/RIHkFROym9gi/ru/%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C-%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD-%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD

## Transcript

[0:01](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/RIHkFROym9gi/ru/%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C-%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD-%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD?t=1) I set up a foundation in Ukraine before Ukraine became independent of, uh, Russia.

[0:08](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/RIHkFROym9gi/ru/%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C-%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD-%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD?t=8) Um, and the foundation has been, uh, functioning ever since, and it played a, an important part in events now.

[0:21](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/RIHkFROym9gi/ru/%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C-%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD-%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD?t=21) I like criticism, but it must be my way.

[0:25](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/RIHkFROym9gi/ru/%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C-%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD-%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD?t=25) Did you see any evidence of US involvement?

[0:27](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/RIHkFROym9gi/ru/%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C-%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD-%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD?t=27) Did you feel their, uh, presence from the US?

[0:30](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/RIHkFROym9gi/ru/%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C-%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD-%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD?t=30) Очень частыми гостями были представители Соединенных Штатов, конгрессмены были.

[0:36](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/RIHkFROym9gi/ru/%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C-%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD-%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD?t=36) Госпожа Нуланд приезжала очень часто. У нас были с ней дискуссии, но после этих дискуссий она шла на Майдан и поддерживала протестующих и обвиняла правоохранительные органы.

[0:51](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/RIHkFROym9gi/ru/%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C-%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD-%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD?t=51) Применялась чрезмерная сила. На самом деле эти все месседжи мы видели на Майдане.

[0:57](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/RIHkFROym9gi/ru/%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C-%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD-%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD?t=57) We will be back here on this square to celebrate with you a Ukraine that stands with Europe and stands with the United States.

[1:08](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/RIHkFROym9gi/ru/%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C-%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD-%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD?t=68) Well, members of Congress were visiting Ukraine during that period, most famously Congressman John McCain.

[1:14](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/RIHkFROym9gi/ru/%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C-%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD-%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD?t=74) So some of the people who were, uh, challenging their government, their elected government at that point were, were being told by a senior US official, a person who ran for president and a top official in the US Congress,

[1:26](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/RIHkFROym9gi/ru/%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C-%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD-%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD?t=86) that the US was with them. I'm Senator John McCain, and it's always a pleasure to be back in Ukraine.

[1:33](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/RIHkFROym9gi/ru/%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C-%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD-%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD?t=93) Senator McCain was, uh, in, in a sense giving the people in the Maidan a feeling that they had the, the backing of the most powerful country on earth.

[1:41](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/RIHkFROym9gi/ru/%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C-%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD-%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD?t=101) This is about the future you want for your country.

[1:45](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/RIHkFROym9gi/ru/%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C-%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD-%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD?t=105) This is about the future you deserve. Это недопустимо ни в одной европейской стране.

[1:51](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/RIHkFROym9gi/ru/%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C-%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD-%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD?t=111) Я постоянно имел контакт с Джо Байденом, вице-президентом.

[1:56](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/RIHkFROym9gi/ru/%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C-%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD-%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD?t=116) У меня были частые с ним телефонные переговоры.

[2:00](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/RIHkFROym9gi/ru/%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C-%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD-%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD?t=120) Но дело в том, что господин Байден говорил одно, а в Украине делали другое.

[2:08](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/RIHkFROym9gi/ru/%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C-%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD-%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD?t=128) And the US ambassador? Посол Соединенных Штатов в Украине постоянно принимал представителей Майдана у себя в посольстве.

[2:18](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/RIHkFROym9gi/ru/%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C-%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD-%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD?t=138) Мы это очень хорошо знали.