# Can a British Pakistani Be British? A Debate on Identity and Ancestry - Original post: https://www.twitter.com/i/status/2118933118648459733 - Source account: [@solicee1](https://x.com/solicee1) - Source language: English - Duration: 2:03 - Published: 2026-11-07 - Canonical URL: https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry ## Transcript [0:00](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry) Earlier before, you said that you don't want your people to become extinct. [0:04](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=4) That's correct. What's the difference between you and a racist then? [0:07](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=7) Because that seems quite racist when you say you don't want your people to ex- be extinct. [0:12](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=12) Are you a different species? We're all people, it's just that we have our own inheritance and our own lineage and ancestry and- So these are people that are in Britain, living in Britain, yet they're not your people. [0:21](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=21) What differentiates be- between you and them? [0:23](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=23) What is Britishness in your eyes? What is a British value? What does that mean? [0:26](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=26) Growing up under the welfare state, getting an education. [0:29](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=29) How is that Britishness? You said you don't want your people to become extinct. [0:32](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=32) Who's you- Why does that upset you? I'm asking you to answer, or to tell me the difference between a Pakistani person and a white man sitting here privileged. [0:40](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=40) Privileged, yeah? Yeah. You've got a lot of attitude. [0:42](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=42) I think you just need to relax a little bit and be respectful. [0:45](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=45) So I would say, first of all, the fact that I'm white is no bearing on my ability to make a compelling argument, and nor should it- So what's compelling about your argument? Tell me that. [0:53](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=53) Are, are you going to interrupt me or are you gonna let me finish? [0:55](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=55) Yeah, I am, actually. Well, in that case, leave, because you're just being rude. [0:57](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=57) Okay. You, you, you just said a British value is to be respectful, so- Yeah, you're correct ... and you said you understand British values. Yeah. [1:02](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=62) So should we try it? Yeah. The difference fundamentally between myself and the gentleman earlier that I was, you claim I was talking to, I may well have been, I just can't remember, who said he had Pakistani origins, lineage, ancestry, [1:14](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=74) is the fact that he has an inheritance that I don't have. [1:16](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=76) In the same way I'm not Pakistani, he's not British. [1:19](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=79) I have noth- Do I think he's a bad person? No. [1:21](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=81) Do I think he's beneath me? No. So can you- I just think it- ... Pakistani... Oh, sorry, go on. [1:24](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=84) I just think that he has a different inheritance, and that's as simple as that. [1:29](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=89) As I have my inheritance as a British man, as a Briton. [1:33](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=93) But he's Pakistani. He's also British. Can you not be both? [1:35](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=95) Can you explain to me what Britishness is? Being born here. [1:37](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=97) If he's born here, is he British? Why does that make you British? [1:39](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=99) 'Cause it's from the pa- place you're born in. [1:41](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=101) If I went to China, my parents went to China and had me in China, would I be Chinese? [1:45](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=105) Well, you grew up with the Chinese values, no? [1:47](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=107) Would I be Chinese? No. [1:50](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=110) Well, then. Well, well, well. I'm asking... [1:52](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=112) That's a loophole, isn't it, though? It's not a loophole. [1:54](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=114) You still grow up with Chinese values. If someone asked you where you're from, you'd still say, "I was born in China," and I would... That's still relevant. I think you just answered- That's still relevant to your identity, no? ... your own argument, didn't you? [2:01](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/Zroc5Wj71bDI/en/can-a-british-pakistani-be-british-a-debate-on-identity-and-ancestry?t=121) I think you lost that one