# Lula Challenges Evidence in Apartment Case and Maintains Innocence - Original post: https://www.twitter.com/i/status/2120975511124066733 - Source account: [@Descharth](https://x.com/Descharth) - Source language: Portuguese - Target language: English - Duration: 2:30 - Published: 2026-11-13 - Machine translated. Check the original before quoting. - Canonical URL: https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence - Original-language version: https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/pt/lula-contesta-provas-no-caso-do-apartamento-e-defende-sua-inoc%C3%AAncia.md ## Transcript [0:00](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence) I'm only challenging the evidence. Someone has to show, someone—this apartment, this damn apartment, if it's mine, it has to have a document, it has to have a contract, it has to have a payment, you know? [0:11](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence?t=11) Something has to be shown, it's impossible, it's impossible, you know? That someone could say the apartment is mine, if I didn't buy it, live there, pay for it, or have a deed. [0:21](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence?t=21) What, what, what thing is mine? Do you remember I asked Moro: "Listen here, Dr. Moro, have you ever gone to a store to buy shoes with your wife? [0:30](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence?t=30) Have you ever seen her tell them to bring down a bunch of boxes put them on, try them, and dislike them, and put them on? [0:36](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence?t=36) Do you think when she leaves without buying any, the store owner can demand that she pay The ten she ordered to get out? [0:43](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence?t=43) Have you ever seen someone become the owner of an apartment because you saw but didn't buy it? [0:48](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence?t=48) Well, then, because I'm not, I'm not joking around in this story. [0:53](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence?t=53) Look, I, I, I, I didn't get into this out of courage, I got into this because I was raised and educated by an illiterate mother. [1:03](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence?t=63) My whole life, I've wanted to chew a piece of bubble gum, back then, they called it ping-pong. [1:08](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence?t=68) I never could. I worked with my uncle at the bar, I could have stolen some. [1:13](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence?t=73) I never stole because I learned from my mother. [1:15](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence?t=75) But I had a guy who became president of the Republic, who had the standing I had worldwide, who had the affection I had, w-w-worldwide, would I tarnish my biography for a damn apartment? [1:29](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence?t=89) You know? You think I'd do that? Throw away a legacy I'd built? [1:34](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence?t=94) Now, if these people had proof, they would expose me. [1:39](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence?t=99) M-my trial in the TRF4 was a sham they orchestrated, you know? Coordinated. [1:44](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence?t=104) Four judges sit in a room and say, “This is the sentence we’ll give.” [1:47](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence?t=107) Now, it’s happening at the STJ. Even the fine is the same. [1:50](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence?t=110) No, it’s all the same, it’s all— here’s the thing, my friend, when the, the, the army commander , before the elections, says that Lula cannot be released, when Rede Globo Television runs over a hundred hours of Jornal Nacional against Lula, [2:07](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence?t=127) and everyone knows the pressure put on everyone nearing trial, everyone is afraid. [2:12](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence?t=132) So, my friend, here’s the thing, I will fight for justice and I want to be acquitted. [2:19](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence?t=139) The only thing I care about isn’t staying at home. [2:23](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence?t=143) The only thing I care about is my innocence. [2:25](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/cF7RHTYfjWYE/en/lula-challenges-evidence-in-apartment-case-and-maintains-innocence?t=145) And I'll fight for her until the last days of my life.