# Mathieu Kassovitz and David Pujadas debate media, racism and mistrust - Original post: https://www.twitter.com/i/status/2120073808782737418 - Source account: [@TFilastin](https://x.com/TFilastin) - Source language: French - Target language: English - Duration: 2:17 - Published: 2026-11-10 - Machine translated. Check the original before quoting. - Canonical URL: https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust - Original-language version: https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/fr/mathieu-kassovitz-face-%C3%A0-david-pujadas-m%C3%A9dias-racisme-et-d%C3%A9fiance.md ## Transcript [0:00](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust) Indeed, when we say ACAB, we're not just talking to the cops, we're mainly talking to the people above them. [0:05](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=5) When this journalist is fired and the people behind— All cops are bastards. [0:09](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=9) You have blood on your hands. She's not talking to the journalists. [0:12](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=12) She's not talking to this young woman. She's talking to, uh, BFM, she's talking to BFM's president, she's talking to all the media that make it so that, yes, this massacre in Trappes, which was a terrorist attack carried out by a racist who wanted to kill Black people and Arabs, [0:28](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=28) in connection with the RN, with— No, no, no, no. [0:31](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=31) No defamation, Mr. Bujadas. Along with lots of others, lots of others. [0:34](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=34) No connection, Mr. Kassovitz. Who is the, who is the, the return, the direct return, which is the direct return of brainwashing that's carried out generally by all the media. [0:45](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=45) What brainwashing? You found in the street— What brainwashing, and what calls for violence? [0:49](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=49) Mathieu Kassovitz. Because this is at the heart of the debate, and we need to be precise. You don't call for violence, but you incite people to, to racism in general. [0:59](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=59) Two hundred BFM journalists are complaining about this. [1:01](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=61) We hear the same rhetoric constantly. First, your journalists are complaining about this, CNews journalists are complaining about this, and even LCI journalists are complaining about this now. [1:09](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=69) So when someone's constantly putting out a message that— You're taking it from us, but… [1:12](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=72) No, but one that's constantly heading toward power, in fact, since you're no longer a counterweight to power at all. [1:19](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=79) And there isn't anymore… I mean, if there were still one, like back then, people knew, Le Figaro was on the right, Libération was on the left, and Le Monde was in the center. [1:26](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=86) And we had a, a discourse of debate. That's why I'm not against it, I'm against shutting down CNews, because it's, it's good to have some, some opposing viewpoints, but there's no debate between opposing sides anymore. [1:35](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=95) There's a kind of homogeneity of thought that tends to favor those in power. [1:41](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=101) And unfortunately, when you go out into the street, you go to the counterbalance to power. [1:45](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=105) It's the only counterbalance to power that exists today. [1:47](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=107) And when they see, the, the media, they're, they're wary. [1:50](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=110) I had that experience with hatred when I went to film in ninety- five. [1:54](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=114) Journalists would show up, you'd take out your camera, and they'd start throwing rocks at you. [1:57](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=117) But you have to go talk to people. In the housing projects. [2:00](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=120) In the housing projects, yes. But you have to go talk to the people there. [2:01](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=121) That's understandable because back then, in 1995, the only things the media reported were that people in the housing projects were savages and that you shouldn't go there. [2:12](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/ngdT2sOogwfX/en/mathieu-kassovitz-and-david-pujadas-debate-media-racism-and-mistrust?t=132) And after a while, they say, “Well, if you want,” if that's what you think of us, we'll answer you the same way.