# Barry Jennings on WTC 7: 9/11 Testimony and Death Investigation - Original post: https://www.twitter.com/i/status/2121287050343453127 - Source account: [@rabbitholebot](https://x.com/rabbitholebot) - Source language: English - Duration: 2:20 - Published: 2026-11-14 - Canonical URL: https://www.translate.mom/transcript/nhUsNGHMRka4/en/barry-jennings-on-wtc-7-9-11-testimony-and-death-investigation ## Transcript [0:00](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/nhUsNGHMRka4/en/barry-jennings-on-wtc-7-9-11-testimony-and-death-investigation) Well, me and Mr. Hess, the corporation counsel, were on the 23rd floor. [0:03](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/nhUsNGHMRka4/en/barry-jennings-on-wtc-7-9-11-testimony-and-death-investigation?t=3) I told him, "We gotta get, get out of here." We started walking down the stairs. [0:06](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/nhUsNGHMRka4/en/barry-jennings-on-wtc-7-9-11-testimony-and-death-investigation?t=6) We made it to the eighth floor. Big explosion, blew us back into the eighth floor. [0:11](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/nhUsNGHMRka4/en/barry-jennings-on-wtc-7-9-11-testimony-and-death-investigation?t=11) And I turned to Hess, I, I said, "This is it. We're dead. We're, we're not gonna make it out of here." [0:15](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/nhUsNGHMRka4/en/barry-jennings-on-wtc-7-9-11-testimony-and-death-investigation?t=15) In 2001, Barry Jennings was the deputy director of emergency services for the New York City Housing Authority. [0:22](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/nhUsNGHMRka4/en/barry-jennings-on-wtc-7-9-11-testimony-and-death-investigation?t=22) After the first plane hit the North Tower at 8:46 AM on the morning of 9/11, Jennings was called to the city's Office of Emergency Management in World Trade Center Building 7, along with corporation counsel Michael Hess, [0:33](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/nhUsNGHMRka4/en/barry-jennings-on-wtc-7-9-11-testimony-and-death-investigation?t=33) to help coordinate the emergency response. [0:35](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/nhUsNGHMRka4/en/barry-jennings-on-wtc-7-9-11-testimony-and-death-investigation?t=35) Hours later, World Trade Center Building 7, also known as the Salomon Brothers Building, collapsed at free-fall acceleration directly into the path of most resistance. [0:44](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/nhUsNGHMRka4/en/barry-jennings-on-wtc-7-9-11-testimony-and-death-investigation?t=44) After seven years of investigation, the National Institute of Standards and Technology, NIST, determined that the building had not come down due to explosives or controlled demolition, as many alleged, or due to structural damage from the collapse of the Twin Towers, [0:58](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/nhUsNGHMRka4/en/barry-jennings-on-wtc-7-9-11-testimony-and-death-investigation?t=58) an explosion in the building's fuel oil systems, or any of the other suggestions that had been put forward and retracted by NIST over the course of its investigation. [1:06](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/nhUsNGHMRka4/en/barry-jennings-on-wtc-7-9-11-testimony-and-death-investigation?t=66) In September 2008, just as NIST was presenting its final report concluding that WTC 7 had spontaneously collapsed from ordinary office fires, it was reported that Barry Jennings had passed away in hospital the month before. [1:19](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/nhUsNGHMRka4/en/barry-jennings-on-wtc-7-9-11-testimony-and-death-investigation?t=79) No further details of his death were offered. [1:21](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/nhUsNGHMRka4/en/barry-jennings-on-wtc-7-9-11-testimony-and-death-investigation?t=81) Dylan Avery, seeking to bring closure to Barry Jennings' life, answer questions about his death, and honor the bravery of a 9/11 survivor who spoke the truth even when it was unpopular, hired a private investigator to determine the circumstances of Jennings' death. [1:36](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/nhUsNGHMRka4/en/barry-jennings-on-wtc-7-9-11-testimony-and-death-investigation?t=96) In a remarkable and bizarre turn of events, however, after pursuing the case, the investigator referred the matter to the police, refunded his fee, and told Avery never to contact him again. [1:48](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/nhUsNGHMRka4/en/barry-jennings-on-wtc-7-9-11-testimony-and-death-investigation?t=108) To this day, no time or cause of death of Barry Jennings has ever been publicly announced or confirmed. [1:54](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/nhUsNGHMRka4/en/barry-jennings-on-wtc-7-9-11-testimony-and-death-investigation?t=114) The man stepped over bodies. We know that happened. [1:57](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/nhUsNGHMRka4/en/barry-jennings-on-wtc-7-9-11-testimony-and-death-investigation?t=117) He and Hess both talked about internal explosions. [2:01](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/nhUsNGHMRka4/en/barry-jennings-on-wtc-7-9-11-testimony-and-death-investigation?t=121) That building housed the CIA, the Secret Service, the SEC. [2:08](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/nhUsNGHMRka4/en/barry-jennings-on-wtc-7-9-11-testimony-and-death-investigation?t=128) I'm just confused about one thing and one thing only: why World Trade Center 7 went down in the first place. [2:14](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/nhUsNGHMRka4/en/barry-jennings-on-wtc-7-9-11-testimony-and-death-investigation?t=134) I'm very confused about that. I know what I heard. [2:18](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/nhUsNGHMRka4/en/barry-jennings-on-wtc-7-9-11-testimony-and-death-investigation?t=138) I heard explosions.