# Zionism and antisemitism: an anti-Zionist reading of Herzl and his successors

- Original post: https://www.twitter.com/i/status/2116510106707951643
- Source account: [@xRnn79](https://x.com/xRnn79)
- Source language: French
- Target language: English
- Duration: 2:56
- Published: 2026-10-31
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- Original-language version: https://www.translate.mom/transcript/sIs36EGVQl5l/fr/sionisme-et-antis%C3%A9mitisme-une-lecture-antisioniste-de-herzl-et-de-ses.md

## Transcript

[0:00](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/sIs36EGVQl5l/en/zionism-and-antisemitism-an-anti-zionist-reading-of-herzl-and-his-successors) Zionism, and—and this isn't, this isn't provocation or irony— to say so, has been an antisemitic movement from the outset.

[0:08](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/sIs36EGVQl5l/en/zionism-and-antisemitism-an-anti-zionist-reading-of-herzl-and-his-successors?t=8) You'll have to explain that to us. Well, yes, I mean, all you have to do is read Theodor Herzl, Ben-Gurion, Jabotinsky, and especially David Gordon, the founder of the first socialist party in, in Palestine in 1905. There is a deep hatred of diasporic Jewishness.

[0:33](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/sIs36EGVQl5l/en/zionism-and-antisemitism-an-anti-zionist-reading-of-herzl-and-his-successors?t=33) Israel is founded on the de-Jewification of Jews. The view that Herzl, Ben-Gurion, Jabotinsky and Gordon have of Jews is exactly the same as the view held by Barrès, Wilhelm Marr, the inventor of the word “antisemitism,” and so on.

[0:54](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/sIs36EGVQl5l/en/zionism-and-antisemitism-an-anti-zionist-reading-of-herzl-and-his-successors?t=54) It's the idea that they are parasites, that they are uprooted people, cosmopolitan, and that this is the worst thing in the world.

[1:02](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/sIs36EGVQl5l/en/zionism-and-antisemitism-an-anti-zionist-reading-of-herzl-and-his-successors?t=62) It's— and I'm not making this up, I can, well, I quote in my book, these are interviews with Ben- Gurion and others.

[1:06](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/sIs36EGVQl5l/en/zionism-and-antisemitism-an-anti-zionist-reading-of-herzl-and-his-successors?t=66) You know, there you go. I mean, the, the, there's a text by Jabotinsky, the spiritual father of, of, of Netanyahu, who explains that, he uses the word "Yid," so today's "kike," uh, is, is a symbol of ugliness. We must build tomorrow's Hebrew who will be a symbol of masculine beauty. There.

[1:28](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/sIs36EGVQl5l/en/zionism-and-antisemitism-an-anti-zionist-reading-of-herzl-and-his-successors?t=88) After that, he became a fascist sympathizer, you can see why.

[1:31](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/sIs36EGVQl5l/en/zionism-and-antisemitism-an-anti-zionist-reading-of-herzl-and-his-successors?t=91) But so this idea is there from the very beginning.

[1:37](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/sIs36EGVQl5l/en/zionism-and-antisemitism-an-anti-zionist-reading-of-herzl-and-his-successors?t=97) That is, it's the very principle of the, the pioneer.

[1:40](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/sIs36EGVQl5l/en/zionism-and-antisemitism-an-anti-zionist-reading-of-herzl-and-his-successors?t=100) It's the principle of the pioneer, but in this case, making pioneers out of people who are indeed cosmopolitans par excellence, It's not simple. So it's work, it's real social engineering, social engineering of transformation. But the result is that they have indeed succeeded.

[1:58](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/sIs36EGVQl5l/en/zionism-and-antisemitism-an-anti-zionist-reading-of-herzl-and-his-successors?t=118) Since indeed, one can say that today Israel is the least Jewish country in the world. Since it is the only country in the world founded on the de-Judaization of its population.

[2:07](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/sIs36EGVQl5l/en/zionism-and-antisemitism-an-anti-zionist-reading-of-herzl-and-his-successors?t=127) Well, that's what they've done from the start.

[2:10](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/sIs36EGVQl5l/en/zionism-and-antisemitism-an-anti-zionist-reading-of-herzl-and-his-successors?t=130) So it seems to me that understanding this, understanding what this pioneering ideal is, which is deliberately, systematically, and openly built on an imitation of Pan- Slavic or Pan- Germanic nationalism of the late nineteenth and twentieth centuries.

[2:27](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/sIs36EGVQl5l/en/zionism-and-antisemitism-an-anti-zionist-reading-of-herzl-and-his-successors?t=147) Theodor Herzl said he would have loved to be a Prussian general.

[2:30](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/sIs36EGVQl5l/en/zionism-and-antisemitism-an-anti-zionist-reading-of-herzl-and-his-successors?t=150) So, so that's, that's what, what, what seems to me to be the, the line of attack. That is, when we're told as anti-Zionist Jews, you're engaging in Jewish self- hatred, you hate yourselves as Jews, you absolutely want to assimilate and not be seen as Jewish. It's exactly the opposite.

[2:50](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/sIs36EGVQl5l/en/zionism-and-antisemitism-an-anti-zionist-reading-of-herzl-and-his-successors?t=170) It's exactly the opposite. Turn the TV off