# Protests: Violence, Civil Disobedience and the Legitimacy of Demands

- Original post: https://www.twitter.com/i/status/2121174519679270983
- Source account: [@JRenardiere](https://x.com/JRenardiere)
- Source language: French
- Target language: English
- Duration: 1:42
- Published: 2026-11-14
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## Transcript

[0:00](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/uBQE3Smk2imY/en/protests-violence-civil-disobedience-and-the-legitimacy-of-demands) I get the feeling that, well, the media, on one hand, say: “Oh, here we have good protesters, the ones with a violin, so they’re good protesters.”

[0:09](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/uBQE3Smk2imY/en/protests-violence-civil-disobedience-and-the-legitimacy-of-demands?t=9) And then the other protesters, the ones who bang on trash cans, and set them on fire—no, they’re not legitimate.

[0:15](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/uBQE3Smk2imY/en/protests-violence-civil-disobedience-and-the-legitimacy-of-demands?t=15) We, with the Orchestre du Nouveau Monde, are convinced that if people unfortunately need to make themselves heard, if you bang on trash cans, you won’t be heard.

[0:22](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/uBQE3Smk2imY/en/protests-violence-civil-disobedience-and-the-legitimacy-of-demands?t=22) If you burn trash cans, well, you won’t be heard. I’d say, in times of, well, profound inequality, I think that, well, the ends sometimes justify the means. Within reason, though.

[0:31](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/uBQE3Smk2imY/en/protests-violence-civil-disobedience-and-the-legitimacy-of-demands?t=31) You have to—Or rather, there are limits.

[0:33](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/uBQE3Smk2imY/en/protests-violence-civil-disobedience-and-the-legitimacy-of-demands?t=33) Well, the limit is— I think that's what we stand up for.

[0:35](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/uBQE3Smk2imY/en/protests-violence-civil-disobedience-and-the-legitimacy-of-demands?t=35) Smashing everything. No, the limit is what we defend.

[0:38](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/uBQE3Smk2imY/en/protests-violence-civil-disobedience-and-the-legitimacy-of-demands?t=38) I mean, we're still in a situation where, uh, there are people, uh, who, uh, go through extremely hard things every day.

[0:44](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/uBQE3Smk2imY/en/protests-violence-civil-disobedience-and-the-legitimacy-of-demands?t=44) I want to tell you, if every time I went to a protest, they tear-gassed me, if every time I demanded something, they told me: Yeah, well, maybe next time.

[0:53](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/uBQE3Smk2imY/en/protests-violence-civil-disobedience-and-the-legitimacy-of-demands?t=53) And if they made me believe the system, it lets me succeed if I work really hard, uh, I think I'd grab a violin and smash it over a riot cop's head.

[1:00](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/uBQE3Smk2imY/en/protests-violence-civil-disobedience-and-the-legitimacy-of-demands?t=60) Well, I think that's how it is. Why did you take that position?

[1:03](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/uBQE3Smk2imY/en/protests-violence-civil-disobedience-and-the-legitimacy-of-demands?t=63) Because you did, after all, grow up in What you’re saying, huh, about a, in a bubble, about a bubble. Yeah.

[1:08](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/uBQE3Smk2imY/en/protests-violence-civil-disobedience-and-the-legitimacy-of-demands?t=68) You went to École alsacienne. Yes. Yes, well, it’s—It’s crazy to hear that kind of talk today.

[1:13](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/uBQE3Smk2imY/en/protests-violence-civil-disobedience-and-the-legitimacy-of-demands?t=73) Yes, I think that kind of talk, isn’t a kind of talk that is, uh, how can I put it, rare.

[1:18](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/uBQE3Smk2imY/en/protests-violence-civil-disobedience-and-the-legitimacy-of-demands?t=78) It’s just the course of history. That is, when you look at it, most major social victories were won in anger, were won through disobedience.

[1:27](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/uBQE3Smk2imY/en/protests-violence-civil-disobedience-and-the-legitimacy-of-demands?t=87) And, uh, when you see people disobeying, for example, during World War II, uh, the sabotage of rail lines, uh, we thought that was normal.

[1:35](https://www.translate.mom/transcript/uBQE3Smk2imY/en/protests-violence-civil-disobedience-and-the-legitimacy-of-demands?t=95) So I really believe that the measure of, of, of the violence must always be compared to the proportionality of the demand.