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Discussion on 9/11 Building Collapse
Donald, Anda, Anda mungkin pembangun paling terkenal,
eh, khususnya
dari, dari, dari gedung-gedung megah d-d-di kota ini.
Ada banyak pertanyaan mengenai apakah kerusakan
dan, dan kehancuran total dari
gedung-gedung itu disebabkan oleh pesawat, oleh
cacat arsitektur, atau mungkin bom atau, atau gempa susulan.
Apa Anda punya pendapat tentang hal itu?
Ya, itu bukan cacat arsitektur.
Anda tahu, World Trade Center selalu dikenal sebagai bangunan yang sangat,
sangat kukuh.
Jangan lupa, gedung itu pernah dihantam bom besar di ruang bawah tanah.
Nah, ruang bawah tanah adalah tempat paling rentan
karena itulah fondasinya, dan
gedung itu mampu bertahan. Dan saya sempat melihat area itu sekitar tiga atau
empat hari setelah kejadian itu karena salah satu insinyur struktur saya sebenarnya mengajak
mengajakku berkeliling, karena dia yang membangun gedungnya.
Dan aku berkata, "Aku tak percaya." Gedung itu
berdiri kokoh dan separuh dari
tiangnya hancur. Maksudku, jadi ini gedung yang luar biasa
kokoh. Eh, jika tahu tentang struktur,
itu adalah salah satu
gedung pertama yang dibangun dari luar.
Bajanya— Alasan World Trade Center memiliki
jendela yang begitu sempit adalah di
antara semua jendela, ada baja di bagian luar,
jadi ada baja di
bagian luar gedung. Itulah kenapa saat pertama melihat,
dan ada balok-I yang besar
dan berat. Saat pertama melihatnya, aku tak percaya karena ada
lubang di baja itu, dan ini baja yang...
Kalian ingat, lebar jendela World
Trade Center, Saudara-saudara.
Kurasa kau, kau tahu, jika kau pernah berada di atas sana, itu
cukup sempit, dan di
antaranya ada baja tebal ini. Kukata, "Bagaimana mungkin pesawat, bahkan pesawat, bahkan
767 atau 747 atau apa pun jenisnya,
bagaimana mungkin bisa menembus
baja ini?" Menurutku mereka
tidak hanya punya pesawat, tapi juga bom
yang meledak hampir bersamaan,
karena aku tak bisa membayangkan ada yang mampu menembus dinding itu.
Kebanyakan gedung dibangun dengan baja di bagian dalam di sekitar poros
lift.
Yang ini dibangun dari luar, yang merupakan struktur terkuat yang bisa
dimiliki,
dan itu hampir seperti, eh, seperti sekaleng sup.
Kau tahu, Donald, kami melihat gambar sepanjang pagi
tentang pesawat yang datang itu
ke, eh, gedung nomor dua, dan saat kau melihatnya, eh,
mendekati sisi, sisi seberang, lalu tiba-tiba,
dalam hitungan, milidetik, ledakannya menyembur keluar dari
sisi lainnya.
Benar. Menurutku itu pesawat dengan lebih dari sekadar bahan bakar.
Kurasa sudah jelas itu pesawat yang sangat besar.
Pesawatnya melaju sangat cepat, karena aku juga melihat saat
pesawatnya tak hanya melaju kencang, tapi juga tampak menukik turun
ke gedung, jadi kecepatannya bertambah karena bergerak turun,
bisa dibilang begitu.
Eh, menurutku menghasilkan kehancuran seperti itu
bahkan melebihi efek pesawat besar, karena kita bicara soal menembus
baja,
baja kaliber terberat yang pernah digunakan pada gedung.
Maksudku, gedung-gedung ini luar biasa kokoh dan, eh, kau tahu,
itu hanyalah sebuah
luar biasa, ini hal yang luar biasa. Ini— Negara ini
berbeda hari ini dan, dan akan berbeda dari yang
pernah ada selama bertahun-tahun mendatang.
Pernyataan yang sangat mendalam dan sangat benar.
Terima kasih sudah datang.
Tak sabar untuk menjawab beberapa pertanyaan Anda.
Minggu ini, bangsa kita berhenti sejenak menandai
peringatan kelima
serangan 11 September.
Informasi yang diperoleh Central Intelligence Agency dengan
menginterogasi
orang-orang seperti Khalid Sheikh Mohammed
telah memberikan informasi berharga dan membantu menggagalkan
rencana teror, termasuk serangan di Amerika
Serikat.
Misalnya, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed menjelaskan
rancangan rencana serangan terhadap
gedung-gedung di AS dan bagaimana para agen, eh, diarahkan untuk
melaksanakannya.
Itu informasi yang berharga.
bagi kami yang memikul tanggung jawab untuk melindungi
rakyat Amerika.
Dia memberi tahu kami para agen telah diinstruksikan untuk memastikan
bahwa bahan peledak itu
meledak di titik ting— titik yang cukup tinggi untuk mencegah orang
yang terjebak di atas melarikan diri.
Dia memberi tahu kami para agen telah diinstruksikan untuk memastikan
bahwa bahan peledak itu
meledak di titik ting— titik yang cukup tinggi untuk mencegah orang
yang terjebak di atas melarikan diri.
Bahan peledak itu
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Original transcript (English)
Donald, you're, you're probably the best-known builder, uh, particularly of, of, of great buildings i-i-in the city. There's a great deal of question about whether or not the damage and, and the ultimate destruction of the
buildings was caused by the airplanes, by architectural defect, or possibly by bombs or, or aftershocks. Do you have any thoughts on that? Well, it wasn't architectural defect. You know, the World Trade Center was always known as a very,
very strong building. Don't forget, that took a big bomb in the basement. Now, the basement is the most vulnerable place 'cause that's your foundation, and it withstood that. And I got to see that area about three or
four days after it took place because one of my structural engineers actually took me for a tour, 'cause he did the building. And I said, "I can't believe it." The building was standing solid and half of the columns were blown out. I mean, so this was an unbelievably
powerful building. Uh, if you know anything about structure, it was one of the first buildings that was built from the outside. The steel-- The reason the World Trade Center had such narrow windows is that in
between all the windows, you had the steel on the outside, so you had the steel on the outside of the building. That's why when I first looked, and you had big, heavy I-beams. When I first looked at it, I couldn't believe it because there was a
hole in the steel, and this is steel that was... You remember the, the width of the windows of the World Trade Center, folks. I think you, you know, if you were ever up there, they were quite narrow, and in
between was this heavy steel. I said, "How could a plane, even a plane, even a seven sixty-seven or a seven forty-seven or whatever it might have been, how could it possibly go through this steel?" I happen to think that they had not only a plane, but they had bombs
that exploded almost simultaneously, 'cause I just can't imagine anything being able to go through that wall. Most buildings are built with the steel is on the inside around the elevator shaft. This one was built from the outside, which is the strongest structure you can
have, and it was almost just like a, uh, like a can of soup. You know, Donald, we were looking at pictures all morning long of that plane coming into, uh, building number two, and when you see that, uh,
approach the, the far side, and then all of a sudden, within a matter, a millisecond, the explosion pops out the other side. Right. I just think that it was a plane with more than just fuel. I think obviously they were very big planes.
They were going very rapidly, because I was also watching where the plane seemed to be not only going fast, it seemed to be coming down into the building, so it was getting the speed from going downhill, so to speak. Uh, it just seemed to me that to do that kind of destruction is
even more than a big plane, because you're talking about taking out steel, the heaviest caliber steel that was used on a building. I mean, these buildings were rock solid and, uh, you know, it's just an
amazing, it's an amazing thing. It's-- This country is different today and, and it's going to be different than it ever was for many years to come. Very profound statement and very true. Thank you for coming.
Looking forward to answering some of your questions. This week, our nation paused to mark the fifth anniversary of the nine eleven attacks. The information that the Central Intelligence Agency has obtained by
questioning men like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has provided valuable information and has helped disrupt terrorist plots, including strikes within the United States.
For example, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed described the design of planned attacks on buildings inside the U.S. and how operatives, uh, were directed to carry them out. That is valuable information
for those of us who have the responsibility to protect the American people. He told us the operatives had been instructed to ensure that the explosives went off at a high poi-- a point that was high enough to prevent people
trapped above from escaping. He told us the operatives had been instructed to ensure that the explosives went off at a high poi-- a point that was high enough to prevent people trapped above from escaping.
The explosives
