Transcript · Japanese → English

Japanese → English transcript

It was in order to unjustly evade their National Health Insurance premium burden.

Not only in Osaka and Hyogo, but also in Tokyo, there was a messaging app group with as many as seventy-three people involved in the same scheme.

It has also been confirmed that solicitation activities were carried out using sales materials labeled “Top-secret reform to cut National Health Insurance premiums.”

It has been confirmed, and even one member of the Diet in this very chamber showed great interest, saying it was well worth considering.

Reform to reduce social insurance premiums is an important theme that transcends ruling and opposition parties.

Yet behind such slogans, members of a public political party

were abusing a scheme to avoid their own National Health Insurance premium burden, and when I learned this, I was stunned.

First, I will direct a question to the Minister of Health, Labour and Welfare.

I pay my respects to the ministry for issuing a prompt notice,

but I believe that this notice is not the end of efforts to resolve this incident,

rather it is the beginning. What is your view?

I believe that going forward, strict action will be required, including possible criminal complaints by the state.

Please explain your current policy for the responses that are envisaged in the near term.

Furthermore, more than half of National Health Insurance premiums

are collected as National Health Insurance tax, that is, as a form of local tax.

From that perspective, this case amounts to outright tax evasion,

and I believe the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications will also be forced to take a tough stance, working together with municipalities nationwide.

What is your view?

It is a serious incident that could affect municipal National Health Insurance finances

and, ultimately, could undermine public trust in the national pension system.

I would like to hear the determination of the Minister for Internal Affairs and Communications regarding correcting this problem and resolving it.

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Original transcript (Japanese)

国保料負担を不当に 免れるためであります 大阪兵庫のみならず東京では73人もの 同等関係者が入る通信アプリのグループに 国保料を下げる改革極秘と銘打った 営業資料を使った勧誘活動がなされていたことも 確認されておりこの議場にいる国会議員の 1人も一向に値すると関心を示していました 社会保険料を下げる改革は 与野党を超えた大事なテーマでありますが

そうしたスローガンの陰で 公党に所属する議員たちが 自分自身の国保料負担を回避するスキムを 悪用していたと知り私は愕然としました まず厚生労働大臣に質問します 厚労省の迅速な通知の発出には 敬意を表しますが 私は今回の通知は事件の解決に向けた 取り組みの終わりではなく

始まりであると考えますが いかがですか 今後国発等も視野に入れた厳正な対応が 必要になると考えますが 当面想定される今後の対応方針について ご説明をください さらには国民健康保険料の過半は 国民健康保険税つまり 地方税として徴収されています

そうした観点から言えば今回の事件は 脱税そのものであり 総務省としても全国の自治体と連携しつつ 厳しい対応を迫られると考えますが いかがでしょうか 自治体の国保財政にも影響を与えかねない ひいては国民の年金制度への信頼を 揺るがしかねない重大な事件です

問題の是正そして解決に向けた 総務大臣の決意を伺います

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