Debate on Indus Waters Treaty and Regional Tensions

He's laughing because I can Otherwise, I will walk away from this interview No, you don't have to walk away I have no reason. You

Victor, I- You leave Mr. Nelson You, you must not walk away because I'm not finished with you. Just one minute please. Abhijit, Abhijit is on.

Let your guest be decent. My- Let them have their air rather than interrupting You are right. Let my guest be decent, therefore I ask you, Victor, please be decent. My question is to you, Victor,

that you spent all of last month in Pakistan. The Pakistani government paid for your flight, for your stay. They- I will be in Pakistan again in a month ... they put you up in a five-star hotel.

The ISI took care of you and told you to give interviews about how India is troubling Pakistan over the Indus Waters Treaty. We told you, we are not going to do to Pakistan what you have done to Nepal. Even today, right, Abhijit? We are not doing this to Pakistan.

We are considerate. We are not doing this. Uh, it's disturbing the ecology to a point, but, but Victor is only afraid because he must admit- Pardon?

See, Abhi- Abhijit, the Chinese themselves are saying that this deep cutting the mountain shelf, despite warnings, has led to a near seismic event, which has led to a large glacial and rock avalanche collapsing into the upper Lende

Kola, sending millions of tons, billions of tons of ice and rock into the river channel and triggering this flash flood situation. Pardon? There's no other reason possible.

Can I, can I just first- Abhijit ... can I first just take strong exception- Yes ... to the gentleman saying this has nothing

to do with India. 300 Indians are dead. Yes. So you know this, uh, the sheer callousness of saying- India is not as concerned as Nepal is for their death

Sir, please don't interrupt me. Don't interrupt me India can't even wait two hours You're the one, you're the one protesting against people interrupting. Now, the sheer callousness of saying that India-

Sir, you are now ... has nothing to do with this, we're a lower riparian power. We have everything to do with this. And Indians, in their hundreds have died. As, as I understand-

Let the Chinese and Nepal deal with the disaster first ... more Chinese and Sikh were again, he's interrupting me ... rather than try your best to interfere- He's, he's again interrupting me ... in rescue effort

He talks about manners. He's got none himself. So, you know, the, the, these standards, "Oh, China is affected." It affe- uh, therefore, China has a right to interfere, but Indians are killed, India has no right to, uh, talk about it. This is the classic double speak of everybody trained who has dreams and

ambitions of growing up in the CCP, uh, hierarchy. Congratulations to him. The point remains, have we done any diversion works or any building, even after we suspended the Indus Water Treaty? Have we done any infrastructural change in the Indus Water Treaty with Pakistan? The answer is no.

Have they? They, they dam, blow, uh, uh, uh, obj, o- obstruct, change, uh, uh, the landscape everywhere in Tibet. Every single square inch.

So what are they on about? They themselves admit that the rare earth mining in Tibet can't happen without a adequate supply of water. Then they want us to believe-

Let me add a point ... that, you know, water is not being diverted. Let me add a point. Let me add a point. Your prime minister openly threatened not to

let a single drop of water in the Indus River to flow into Pakista- Pakistan. This is for the record. Now, I've declared openly for the mid-range country of the Indus River to deny water to the lower, uh, reach, uh, people in Pakistan

will be a war crime in times of war, and will be a crime against humanity in times of peace. You know, uh- Our view from it ... Abhi- Abhijit, I want to expose Victor Gao at this point

You know, this is all- At this point I want to expose Victor Gao Prevent the flow of water into Pakistan He has never... No, no, this man is lying I want to expose Victor Gao very badly

This man is lying What I said Modi has never said India has not threatened Modi has never said that

Abhijit, do I have your permission to expose Victor Gao? Come on. Come on. Do I have your permission- Your prime minister

... to expose Victor Gao? For the record How dare you guys Mr. Gao, you have never condemned the Samar, Samar, can I-

Never Do I have your permission also to expose Victor Gao? And what you've done in Nepal, is this not a war crime? No, no, I'll tell you what he has done. Now I will say something which will expose him

completely. It is entirely possible, Abhijit and Samar, that he might sue me. You are not talking in the English language right now It is entirely possible that he might run away from my program. It is entirely possible that short of a

heart attack, anything can happen to him on my program. Victor Gao went to Pakistan, Abhijit, and do you know what he said? He said, "We will use our rivers and weaponize it

to attack and target India." He said- Holy cow, you put your words into Victor Gao's mouth He said in Pakistan- Anna

He said in Pakistan- You put your words into Victor Gao's mouth He said in Pakistan, "I have the power to deal with rivers originating in Tibet." He said that, "Don't worry, there are rivers originating in Tibet."

And he said, "India should not forget that the Indus River system starts in the Tibetan Plateau." And he said, "We are in the-" Himalaya, Himalaya

"You are low downstream. We are, we are with the... " And he said, he said, "You know, I will quote Confucius, 'Don't do other- unto others what don't want others to do unto you.'" Which means he said to India that, "I will kill

people in India with water." And that's, that's what a weak- Anna, you put your words into my mouth He said he threatened to- Come on. Wake up

He threatened to you, "Weaponize water against India" But unfortunately- Wake up ... and that is what you've done. How do I know you've not weaponized water against

the people of Nepal? Because that is what you said in Pakistan, Victor. This is your article. Tell everyone in India Shame on you "Don't do unto others what you don't want others do unto

you" You said it. Yeah, you said it. Admit it Confucius said 2,500 years ago. Keep that in mind. Don't do unto others- You tried to threaten us. You see, now it's true color