English transcript

As for Epstein, I've said this before, but just as a reminder, I do know somebody very,

very close to this case who is in a position to know virtually everything, not everything,

but virtually everything. And this person has told me from the start years and years ago

that Jeffrey Epstein, in this person's view, was not a pedophile. This is this person's view,

who was there for a lot of this, but that he was into the barely legal type, like he liked

15-year-old girls. And I realize this is disgusting. I'm definitely not trying to

make an excuse for this. I'm just giving you facts that he wasn't into like eight-year-olds,

but he liked the very young teen types that could pass for even younger than they were,

but would look legal to a passerby. And that is what I believed, and that was what I reliably

was told for many years. And it wasn't until we heard from Pam Bondi that they had tens of

thousands of videos of alleged, forgive me, they used to call it kiddie porn, now they call it

child sexual abuse material, on his computer that for the first time I thought, oh, no,

he was an actual pedophile. I mean, only a pedophile gets off on young children abuse videos.

She's never clarified it. I don't know whether it's true. I have to be honest. I don't really

trust Pam Bondi's word on the Epstein matters anymore. Yeah, so I don't know what's true about

him, but we have yet to see anybody come forward and say, I was a, like a, I was under 10. I was

under 14 when I first came within his purview. Look, it's, you can say that's a distinction

without a difference. No, it's not. I think there is a difference. There's a difference between

a 15-year-old and a five-year-old, you know, it's just whatever.