Persian → English transcript

Three years ago, during“ Woman, Life, Freedom,” in my opinion

my entire political thinking personally changed,

I mean it was a political experience for me, in my opinion.

Iranian society is a society centered on opportunity.

it lost the possibility of democratic dialogue

with the Kurdish nation and other nations, and it showed that

it does not have the potential to come and shape such a dialogue.

As a result, personally

I do not see Pahlavi as a threat at all, in my opinion. I see Pahlavi

as an opportunity. and personally I support Pahlavi in Tehran

being able to become more prominent and being able

to somehow, there, not that he gains power,

because such a thing, in my view, will never happen, but personally I am in favor

of Pahlavi becoming prominent and

in the center, because Pahlavi is the only figure who

has caused and causes society to become extremely polarized in the center,

meaning there

are currents that are against Pahlavi and are not necessarily democratic.

That Pahlavi

is defined as the Great Satan means that It is not as if the person who opposes it…

among these opponents of Pahlavi, we have not seen even one person who would come

and publicly declare in the mass media, who would come and at least,

for example, recognize the right to the Kurdish language, let alone the right

of the Kurdish nation as a nation.

I mean it is a really big mistake for us

to put all of these into a democratic category.

Pahlavi is the only figure who can create a kind of multi- polar space

in the central society, because there are some movements that are absolutely not

willing to submit to Pahlavi.

And Pahlavi is the only figure

against whom the non- Persian nations can

mobilize their own people in response. As a result, I, personally,

am a supporter of Pahlavi.

It is not that I do not look at him as a threat. He really is not a threat,

because this is a wrong mindset, a mistaken fantasy,

for us to think that Pahlavi would come to Iran and take power and that everything…

No, absolutely such a thing will never happen. But Pahlavi

is not a threat. Pahlavi is an opportunity, and I personally see him as an

opportunity. I do, and now I also have many reasons why I see it as an opportunity,

that in among Kurdish movements, and many of us see this feeling

there is this mistaken sense that they see Pahlavi as— meaning they put a big part

of their energy against Pahlavi, they devote it to that.

In my opinion, this comes from

the propaganda

and the media and the platforms in the center,

from those currents that are opposed to Pahlavi and they think— meaning

they really hype this up and present it as a threat. They do. I personally,

I am saying this very loudly, I personally am in favor of

the prominence of Pahlavi in Tehran, because this makes it so that the space,

so that we can bring our own people,

the non- Persian nations…