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The idea that Finland and Sweden are full-fledged members of NATO is

extraordinary. This was never something that was in anyone's imagination or in

the cards for decades and decades and decades. And time and again what Putin has

done in Ukraine is to precipitate things he claimed he was trying to prevent,

including a stronger NATO that is in different ways now closer to Russia.

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