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Investigating Political Influence Tactics

Descubrimos que algunos intermediarios cobran hasta tres millones.

Así que decidimos usar cámaras ocultas y enviamos a los

Cavino a reunirse con Burkman y Mulholl.

No creo que su indulto, no creo que sea demasiado difícil.

Dijeron que pondrían la solicitud de indulto de Ammon en manos del

presidente y presionarían.

Con esta Casa Blanca en particular, hay que presionar al presidente

desde

todas las direcciones de forma constante para forzarle

la mano. Literalmente queremos ponerle el bolígrafo en la

mano y lograr que lo firme porque

está harto de oír hablar de ello.

Cuando siguió la vía normal, ¿cuánto le costó?

Un sello.

Un sello. Eso es todo. ¿Y esto le costaría

a usted?

$300.000.

¿Qué, qué dijo?

Dije—

Dije: «Yo p- eh, ¿para qué es?» Y dijeron: «Bueno, tenemos que

comprar boletos».

Tenemos que ir a Mar-a-Lago.

Tenemos que

asistir a eventos a los que asiste el presidente.

Quizá tengamos que comprar una entrada de 10.000 dólares para una

recaudación de fondos a la que el presidente asiste.

Dijeron que tenemos que contratar a contratistas para hacer ciertas cosas.

Vaya, ¿qué significa eso?

Bueno,

Influencers por ahí,

influencers que conocen a otras personas

que pueden ponernos

cerca de las personas que pueden marcar la diferencia.

Lo que hacemos es movilizar a miembros del Congreso para que lo llamen.

Usamos a ciertos influencers que tienen reuniones periódicas para llamarlo, y

lo ponemos en un movimiento de pinza.

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Original transcript (English)

We found that some brokers charge as much as 3 million. So we decided to use hidden cameras and sent the Cavinos to meet Burkman and Mulholl. I don't think your pardon, I don't think it'll be too difficult. They said they would put Ammon's pardon plea in the hands of the

president and push. With this particular White House, you have to put pressure on the president from all directions in a consistent way to force his hand. We literally want to put the pen in his

hand and get him to sign it because he's tired of hearing about it. So when you went the regular route, how much did it cost you? A postage stamp. Postage stamp. That's it. And this would cost

you? $300,000. What, what did you say? I said- I said, "I g- uh, what's it for?" And they said, "Well, we have to

buy tickets." We have to go to Mar-a-Lago. We have to- We have to attend events that the president's at. We have to possibly buy a $10,000 ticket to a

fundraiser that the president is attending. They said we have to hire contractors to do certain things. Whoa, what does that mean? Well, it- Influencers out there

... influencers that know other people that can put us in the vicinity of the people that can make a difference. What we do is we mobilize members of Congress to call him. We use certain influencers who have regular meetings to call him, and

we put him in a pincer movement.

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