Debate on Religious Conversion and Healing

This pamphlet is yours. You admit it, right? You admit it. It is written

in the prayer: 'I am a sinner from birth. I

believe

that Jesus came into this world in human form. Lived a sinless life. For my

sins, He was killed. I declare this, and then come here.' This is a conversion pamphlet,

isn't

it?

A lot of people come.

No, no, two of your people are roaming around the neighborhood. In the

neighborhood, we have proof, and

the residents said that two people from your church go and distributed these

pamphlets.

How would we know, brother, who is coming from our church?

But the pamphlet is yours, right? That pamphlet is yours.

Since when are they coming? Someone from outside is coming, someone like that.

Your church had this pamphlet printed, right? No outsider got it printed.

You are saying that if you accept this, you get freedom from illness, hardship, debt, and addiction.

You do know that this is a violation of the Drugs and Magic Remedies Act,

don't you?

Yes. When we do service at home and abroad, all the people who came to us,

some were addicted, some had illnesses. Our Jesus healed

them. That is what we are saying.

No, but if Jesus heals, isn't that a violation of the Drugs and Magic Remedies

Act? You are saying that just by believing in someone, all

illnesses will go away.

You know, yeah, you have a very nice message in your post.

You are doing a great job.

But I am against conversion. But how many times have I told

you? Where does it say to leave your religion? Oh please, please, you know. I

am a Brahmin. I am Shilpa Sharma, and for 18

years I have been following the Hindu religion. You know me, you know.

that I am not a

fool. On this channel I just want to say this: I am a Hindu

Brahmin girl. I have been following Christ for the past 18

years. Basically, I am still a Hindu today. My father's name

is the same. My mother's name is the same, my caste is the same. I never say. I am a

Christian.

I am a Hindu who believes in Jesus Christ. And this sister is also

Hindu. They are doing very good work. But within this...

this phenomenon is considered crypto-conversion.

We are doing a good cause.

What kind of work for a cause are you doing?

Cause we are...

What do you do?

Many people come in depression. Look, that is what I am telling

you.

When a person comes sick, how do you heal them?

Are you sitting there as doctors? What are you saying?

Healing them? Are you healing them by writing prescriptions? Have you written on the slip that you

cure them?

Let me speak.

You've written on this pamphlet that you cure people.

Listen.

No, no. You said you are doing great work here. Just list

four things that you're doing here.

When I came here, I had typhoid.

And that was cured.

Every year, I barely survived.

That got cured by coming here.

Yes, it did.

Without going to any doctor, she got cured just by coming here and praying.

"Don't go to a doctor, just come to you and you'll be cured." What a huge benefit this is!

Why aren't you saying this?

It says "doctor" here.

No, no, no, no. You are not saying that you

cure drug addiction. Get rid of financial

hardship. Hardship, how do you clear debt? By praying

here? Your illness was

healed. How did that happen? Give a scientific reason for it.

"It will be cured by praying. In the Bible." What kind of unscientific claim is this?

If it's written in the Bible, why should we accept it? Why should a Hindu accept it?

Then that's conversion. No, no. If that isn't conversion, then what is it?

Listen to me. You go to any temple and find even a single priest who says

that reading the Gita will cure your illness. Is any priest saying that?

You go into Hindu neighborhoods, call Hindus, hand out pamphlets to them,

and tell them, "Read the Bible, your illness will go away." And then you say,

"I am

not converting anyone." Is it conversion only when an ID changes, or when a name

changes—is that the only time it's conversion?