Spanish → English transcript

There is an element of truth

disturbing, and it is the one we are

seeing at this moment,

Camila, Paca, and Gabriel,

what we are about to read,

I repeat, to say the least,

is disturbing on a day

of calm where international

observers have said that

Colombian democracy worked,

the registrar's office says the same,

as does the ombudsman's office,

the tweet just published by

the president of the republic,

Gustavo Petro. He says that

as president he does not accept the

pre-count results and speaks of

the private firm of the Bautista brothers,

I am going to read verbatim the beginning

of the tweet by the president of the republic,

a minute ago he posted on the social

network, the so-called count

transmitted has no binding

force, its data

are not public standard, as

president I do not accept the results

of the pre-count by the private firm of the

Bautista brothers, because while they should have been still,

the algorithms of the software for

counting and scrutiny, in the last

week they were altered on three

occasions, and they added

800,000 more ID cards

of people who are not in the

official census presented.

There are two censuses at this moment: the

official one and that of the software of the

Bautista brothers, referring

to the owners of the firm

Thomas Gregg, which has

800,000 additional people,

the president claims. The polling stations

already challenged show that

hundreds of thousands of votes

were added, and that

without the existence

there is an error in the tweet

of voters, therefore

in accordance with the law, the

binding results that the president

will heed and accept

are those of the scrutiny

commissions led by the

scrutiny commissions of the

Republic.

The big question here,

María Alejandra and viewers,

if I go back to you, Camila,

because this opinion is important

from our analysts, is what

the runner-up in the

race will say, the candidate supported

by the president who has just

said, if we are understanding correctly,

he says he does not accept the result

of the preliminary count and says that only

for him, the binding

results, that is, those that

are binding and those he will heed

and accept, are those of the

scrutiny commissions, Camila,

Paca and Gabriel.

It is the next

process after this preliminary count that

we have been talking about

all afternoon.

And that takes much more time,

because it has the possibility of

being challenged, and if they end up

challenging each of the

polling stations, we would end up having, Paca

and Gabriel, results within

a long time.

I think we are seeing the

president in the same tone

as always, attacking the

registrar's office, there is nothing

new here, he has always attacked the

registrar's office and attacking the

software and attacking, like, the

count, the truth is that there are

electoral witnesses from the Historic

Pact at every single one of the

polling stations in the country taking photos

of the E14, and they can do the

preliminary count, and then comes the whole

process that Gabriel explained at

the beginning of the afternoon,

but the truth is that in

Colombia we have never had any

major differences between the

preliminary count and the final

results.

And looking at the congressional

elections, which is what they have

said from the registrar's office and

the National Electoral Council,

the difference between the

preliminary count and the scrutiny has

been minimal, less than 1%.

0.02%, Camila, but also

this can be analyzed from two

aspects. From a

legal point of view, the official

result is the one that comes from the

scrutiny, which is the phase

after the pre-count, carried out

by judges and notaries, where

inconsistencies can be reviewed

based on what comes out of the

review by the electoral

witnesses, who are appointed by

the parties themselves, and today there are

more than 360,000 jurors in

Colombia, and in Colombia, more than

360,000 have been registered

across the country.

But from a

political point of view, it is worrying that the

president is questioning an

electoral system that has been

recognized by international

organizations and by international

audits as a system

that is solid because it is based on the

verification of votes

by more than 850,000

jurors who are people like

you and me.

And that this is a prelude to

what could happen in the second

round, and do you remember when

we started talking about the

transparency of the system and

the efficiency of the system, I

asked you how much

that transparency of the system would hold up if

we have a very tight

second round.

I think the logic I see

from the president is that of a

loser who doesn't want to accept

the result, and I think it's

like people when they fight with

the polls, yes, it's a snapshot

of a moment, whether I'm fat or

thin, too bad, that's the photo

they took of me at that moment.

Here, it's a bit of the same, I

think it's part of the manner

and the temperament of the president,

but the truth is that the

result is the result, that

we have a preliminary count and that already

the authorities will tell us which

But additionally,

additionally we have to flee

the candidate, the candidate is a

little calmer, more

institutionalist, to put it

in some way.

The candidate Juan Roberto has

been throughout the campaign,

many of his critics have

said so, behind

President Gustavo Petro himself.

We will have to see how far behind he is

going to be after that

pronouncement, I agree

with Paca, and the issue here is that

when we said and we called it

disturbing, it is because he is the

President of the Republic.

There is a ruling by the Constitutional

Court and the Inter-American

Commission on Human

Rights where it reminds

President Gustavo Petro that his

words have a great effect on

the institutions and that, therefore,

he is not a citizen

anyone who can speak

about a topic as delicate as

fraud.

Of course, the system

allows what the president

was suggesting, which is that we have

to wait for the challenge, he

is already talking about a challenge in

some polling stations, and most likely

that process will take place.

We must remember that in the

March elections, as we

said earlier, there was only

a one point something, remind me of the

percentage difference between

the official count and the pre-count,

that is, almost the same...

Not even 2%.

The 0.2% difference between

the pre-count and the official count,

therefore, we should trust

the result of precisely

these elections.

Now, Juan Roberto, there is also

a topic that makes me think,

the delay of Iván Cepeda, you

were saying we have to wait and see

whether the candidate makes a statement

in one way or another.

And if he endorses what the

president says about not accepting the

Exactly, but Iván Cepeda is

taking his time to deliver

his speech, and therefore, perhaps

this pressure from President

Gustavo Petro may be

generating an internal discussion

within the Historic Pact to know

how they stand regarding a

possibility like the one that is