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É uma visita relâmpago de Tucker Carlson,
que voou para Israel para realizar uma entrevista com o embaixador dos EUA,
Mike Huckabee.
O polêmico comentarista de direita e ex-
apresentador da Fox News
teria chegado
em um avião
particular para ter a
conversa presencial
no Aeroporto
Internacional Ben
Gurion antes de
embarcar novamente.
Tucker Carlson
tem gerado muita controvérsia
com seus comentários sobre a relação entre os EUA e
Israel e suas
opiniões sobre o
sionismo cristão.
No início desta semana,
o embaixador disse que via a entrevista como uma oportunidade de combater
diretamente a
desinformação.
Para falar mais sobre isso,
recebemos Shadi Khalloul,
fundador e presidente do Centro
Aramaico da Galileia.
Shadi, muito obrigado
pelo seu tempo.
Tucker Carlson não é estranho à controvérsia e isso certamente ajuda a marca dele.
Entendo que você o convidou para conhecer
cristãos locais durante esta visita a Israel.
Que resposta
você recebeu?
Sim, ah... Bem,
eu estou...
eu estou na verdade
muito frustrado
que este, ah,
Tucker Carlson... ...
na verdade tenha sido convidado por nós muitas,
muitas vezes
e também estendemos
convites para falar
com ele e ser
entrevistados por ele.
E desta vez,
quando soubemos que ele está vindo a Israel, ah,
nós também enviamos a ele uma carta para todos os e- mails dele,
para todas as, ah,
até contas do Twitter,
contas pessoais,
e ele nunca respondeu.
E por que isso é
importante?
É importante porque ele está falando sobre nós, sobre mim,
sobre a nossa comunidade,
sobre o meu povo que vive aqui em Israel.
E ele nos menciona,
de forma muito confiante,
dizendo que
vivemos em um
Estado de apartheid.
E isso é, você sabe,
uma grande mentira e um grande,
ah, você sabe,
ah, problema
para nós acusar
o Estado de
Israel de ser
um Estado de
apartheid e de
oprimir cristãos.
É uma grande mentira que me afeta
pessoalmente e afeta minha
comunidade de
maneira pessoal.
Por que eu digo isso?
Porque ele está na verdade
implantando
tensão entre
cristãos e judeus no
terreno em Israel.
Muitos judeus que o
ouvem começam a
acreditar que
os cristãos
realmente acre…
ah, odeiam judeus.
E o contrário,
os, ah, cristãos que o
ouvem começam a
odiar judeus e,
dessa forma,
ele acaba prejudicando a
convivência,
a bela e próspera comunidade
cristã que é a única
comunidade em Israel, ah,
que está aumentando
em número no
Oriente Médio.
E comparando com o Líbano,
comparando com a Síria,
comparando com o Iraque,
com o Egito, com a Jordânia também,
nós somos a
única comunidade que está aumentando em número e vivendo
e prosperando no Estado judeu
democrático de Israel, uh,
porque é uma democracia.
Então, em vez de noticiar sobre essas opressões
que estão acontecendo em estados árabes e islâmicos,
ele vem e faz
reportagens
sobre nós de
forma falsa.
E exatamente nesse ponto,
Tucker Carlson já fez muitos comentários ultrajantes ao longo do tempo,
descrever sionistas cristãos
como as pessoas que ele mais despreza no mundo é simplesmente além de revoltante.
A mentira do apartheid que você
também está
expondo agora é
inconcebível.
Digamos que ele tivesse respondido ao seu convite
e que você pudesse tê- lo levado pelo país. O que você teria esperado alcançar?
Se ele tivesse respondido e concordado em vir e encontrar a comunidade,
o que isso teria significado para você?
Para onde você o teria levado?
O que você teria mostrado a ele?
Eu mostraria a ele nossa comunidade aqui em Israel,
a comunidade cristã na Galileia.
Conhecer líderes em diferentes cidades.
Ir para a área do festival,
uh, Nova, uh, onde muitos judeus
foram perseguidos,
foram aniquilados,
foram na verdade,
uh, mortos em um,
nem sequer em um dia,
em poucas horas.
Eu o levaria ao
Holocausto,
lembrar… uh, uh,
memorial no Monte, uh, uh…
você sabe, Herzl.
E mostrar a ele exatamente como nós,
cristãos e judeus,
podemos sofrer com o terrorismo islâmico que pode na verdade matar nós
dois se o Estado de Israel for enfraquecido como ele está tentando fazer com o
Catar e com
seus apoiadores.
Então eu mostraria a ele a diversa diversidade deste país e como vivemos juntos em
coexistência neste país.
Eu vou mostrar a ele a
beleza de Israel.
Vou mostrar a ele o que…
como ele pode prejudicar esta convivência se continuar desse jeito.
Então é isso que vou mostrar a ele.
E espero, espero que um dia ele responda ao nosso pedido
e o nosso apelo
a ele é que venha realmente aqui e lhe mostre a verdade sobre Israel,
a verdade sobre a democracia e a verdade sobre a bela e próspera comunidade cristã
dentro do Estado de Israel que é a melhor comunidade cristã, uh,
que é honrada,
vivendo de maneira honrada no Oriente Médio em comparação
com outros cristãos. Shadi Khalloul, sempre aprecio o seu tempo e, como você diz,
é tão importante que as pessoas e especialmente os críticos realmente vir e ver em
primeira mão o que está acontecendo de fato no terreno.
Shadi Khalloul,
obrigado por estar conosco na i24NEWS.
Obrigado.
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Original transcript (English)
It's a blitz visit for Tucker Carlson who flew into Israel to conduct an interview with US Ambassador Mike Huckabee. The controversial right-wing commentator and former Fox News host The controversial right-wing commentator and former Fox News host reportedly swooped in on a private plane
reportedly swooped in on a private plane to have the sit-down discussion at Ben Gurion International Airport to have the sit-down discussion at Ben Gurion International Airport before he is due to fly out again. before he is due to fly out again.
Now Tucker Carlson has courted much controversy with his comments about the relationship Now Tucker Carlson has courted much controversy with his comments about the relationship between the US and Israel and his views on Christian Zionism. Earlier this week, the ambassador saying he welcomed the interview as a chance Earlier this week, the ambassador saying he welcomed the interview as a chance
to tackle misinformation head-on. So for more, we welcome Shadi Khalloul, founder and president at the Galilee Aramaic Center. Shadi, thank you so much for your time. at the Galilee Aramaic Center. Shadi, thank you so much for your time. Tucker Carlson is no stranger to controversy and it certainly helps his brand.
Tucker Carlson is no stranger to controversy and it certainly helps his brand. I understand you invited him to meet local Christians during this visit to Israel. What response did you get? Yes, uh... Well, I am... I am very actually frustrated that this, uh, Tucker Carlson...
Well, I am... I am very actually frustrated that this, uh, Tucker Carlson... ...actually have been invited by us many, many times and we also extended invitations to speak with him and be interviewed by him. to speak with him and be interviewed by him. And this time when we heard that he's coming to Israel, uh, we also sent him a letter
And this time when we heard that he's coming to Israel, uh, we also sent him a letter personal accounts, and he never responded. And why it's important? personal accounts, and he never responded. And why it's important? It's important because he's speaking about us, about me, about our community, about my people that live here in Israel. It's important because he's speaking about us, about me, about our community, about my people that live here in Israel.
And he mention us in very confident way that we live in apartheid state. And he mention us in very confident way that we live in apartheid state. And which is, you know, a big lie and big, uh, you know, uh, issue for us And which is, you know, a big lie and big, uh, you know, uh, issue for us And which is, you know, a big lie and big, uh, you know, uh, issue for us
to, uh, accuse the State of Israel that it is apartheid state and it is oppressing Christians. to, uh, accuse the State of Israel that it is apartheid state and it is oppressing Christians. to, uh, accuse the State of Israel that it is apartheid state and it is oppressing Christians. It's a big lie that affect me personally and my community in a personal way. It's a big lie that affect me personally and my community in a personal way.
Why I say that? Because he's actually implanting tension Why I say that? Because he's actually implanting tension Why I say that? Because he's actually implanting tension between Christian and Jews in the ground in Israel. Many Jews that hear him, between Christian and Jews in the ground in Israel. Many Jews that hear him,
they start believing that the Christians really beli... uh, hate Jews. And opposite, they start believing that the Christians really beli... uh, hate Jews. And opposite, the, uh, Christians that hear him start hating Jews and by this way the, uh, Christians that hear him start hating Jews and by this way he actually damaging the coexistence, the beautiful thriving Christian community
he actually damaging the coexistence, the beautiful thriving Christian community that it is the only community in Israel, uh, that is increasing in numbers in the Middle East. that it is the only community in Israel, uh, that is increasing in numbers in the Middle East. And comparing with Lebanon, comparing with Syria, comparing with Iraq, with Egypt, with Jordan as well, And comparing with Lebanon, comparing with Syria, comparing with Iraq, with Egypt, with Jordan as well,
And comparing with Lebanon, comparing with Syria, comparing with Iraq, with Egypt, with Jordan as well, we are the only community that increasing in number and living and thriving in Israeli, we are the only community that increasing in number and living and thriving in Israeli, uh, democratic Jewish state because it's democracy. So instead of reporting about those oppression that happening in Arab and Islamic state,
he comes and report in us in a false way. he comes and report in us in a false way. And to that exact point, Tucker Carlson has made many outrageous comments in his time, And to that exact point, Tucker Carlson has made many outrageous comments in his time, And to that exact point, Tucker Carlson has made many outrageous comments in his time,
describing Christian Zionists as the people he despises most in the world is just beyond appalling. The apartheid lie that you are outlining right now as well, unconscionable. Let's say he had responded to your invite and you could have taken him around the country. Let's say he had responded to your invite and you could have taken him around the country. and meet the community, what would that have meant for you? Where would you have taken him?
What would you have shown him? I would show him our community here in Israel, the Christian community in the Galilee. Meet leaders in different towns. Go to the Nova, uh, festival, uh, area where many Jews were persecuted, were annihilated, were actually, uh, killed where many Jews were persecuted, were annihilated, were actually, uh, killed
in one, even not one day, in few hours. in one, even not one day, in few hours. I would take him to the Holocaust, remember... uh, uh, memorial in Mount, uh, uh... I would take him to the Holocaust, remember... uh, uh, memorial in Mount, uh, uh... you know, Herzl.
And show him exactly how we, Christian and Jews, might suffer from Islamic terrorism So I would show him the different diversity of this country and how we live together in coexistence in this country. So I would show him the different diversity of this country and how we live together in coexistence in this country. I will show him the beauty of Israel. I will show him the beauty of Israel.
I will show him what... how he can damage this coexistence if he continue this way. I will show him what... how he can damage this coexistence if he continue this way. I will show him what... how he can damage this coexistence if he continue this way. So that's what I will show him. And I hope, I hope one day he will answer our request and our appeal to him and come actually here and show him the truth about Israel,
and our appeal to him and come actually here and show him the truth about Israel, the truth about the democracy and the truth about the beautiful thriving Christian community within the State of Israel which is the best Christian community with, uh, that are honorable, living in honorable way in the Middle East compared to other Christians. Shadi Khalloul, always appreciate your time and as you say, so important that people and especially critics actually come and see firsthand what is really happening on the ground.
Shadi Khalloul, thank you for being with us on i24NEWS. Shadi Khalloul, thank you for being with us on i24NEWS. Thank you.
