Transcript · Dutch → English
Youth Perspectives on War and Media
Russia is our enemy.
If you watch Sam Mokro, one of the most important news channels
for young people. Or if I talk to people on the streets
in my neighborhood, Rotterdam-Zuid.
Everyone says, well, Yasugus should go fight himself.
And it's the same in Germany.
Yeah.
You also made a very powerful report about that.
I was completely— I had to think about that for a long time,
because you
were walking in the— among a demonstration of children.
Yeah.
Thirteen, fourteen, fifteen years old.
This is going pretty badly for me, man.
Here in Germany, I'm walking among twelve-year-olds who have to convince their government
that World War Three might not be a good idea.
It really feels like the fever dream you don't want to have.
You went to ask questions,
and they were so well-motivated and
Well thought-out. And they had such a vision. Well, I, I, I.
I don't see that in the Netherlands.
I won't be fighting against someone who also doesn't want to fight
against me. In a war for interest that aren't
mine.
This country does not give anything to the young people.
The young people are not respected in this, in politics.
I gotta kill people that are probably closer to me than the people
that say I
should kill them.
You don't want to fight the working class of another country.
I would fight for the working class, but I don't want to fight for, against the
working class of other countries.
When that school strike for climate, when that took place in
Brussels with only a few thousand young people.
When it still wasn't that big at all, it was simply shown on NOS.
But this, 45,000 German young people,
and that's really the most
conservative estimate. Not a single word in the Dutch media.
Yes, that's the balance you keep
talking about.
Yes, and that is, that is the lack of debate.
And what's so difficult is, a lot of journalists also think, yeah,
I'm not an
expert on this subject. So who do they call?
Nine times out of ten, they're experts who just happen to
receive money from Clingendael. Gosh, they just happen to have ties to the
Ministry
of Defense. The debate center De Balie. Oh, it just happens to receive money from NATO.
Oh, the commentators. Nine times out of ten, the experts have
funding ties to that military-industrial complex.
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Original transcript (Dutch)
Rusland is onze vijand. Als je bij een Sam Mokro kijkt, een van de meest belangrijke nieuwskanalen voor jongeren. Of als ik in mijn buurt Rotterdam-Zuid op straat spreek. Iedereen zegt dan: nou ja, Yasugus gaat zelf maar vechten.
En dat is ook in Duitsland zo. Ja. Daar heb jij ook een hele mooie reportage van gemaakt. Ik was helemaal-- Ik moest daar eeh lang over nadenken, want jij
liep in de- tussen een demonstratie van kinderen. Ja. Dertien, veertien, vijftien jaar. Ik ben wel een beetje slecht aan het gaan man. Ik loop hier in Duitsland tussen de twaalfjarigen die hun regering
ervan moeten overtuigen dat de Derde Wereldoorlog misschien geen goed idee is. Het voelt echt als de koortsdroom die je niet wilt hebben. Jij ging vragen stellen, en dat was zo goed gemotiveerd en doordacht. En ze hadden zo'n visie. Nou, ik, ik, ik.
In Nederland zie ik dat niet. I won't be fighting against someone who also doesn't want to fight against me. In a war for interest that aren't mine. This country does not give anything to the young people.
The young people are not respected in this, in politics. I gotta kill people that are probably closer to me than the people that say I should kill them. You don't want to fight the working class of another country.
I would fight for the working class, but I don't want to fight for, against the working class of other countries. Toen die school strike for climate, toen dat in Brussel plaatsvond met maar een paar duizend jongeren. Toen dat nog helemaal niet zo groot was, toen verscheen dat gewoon bij de NOS.
Maar dit, vijfenveertigduizend Duitse jongeren, en dat is echt de meest conservatieve schatting. Geen enkel woord in de Nederlandse media. Ja, dat is dat evenwicht waar jij het steeds over hebt.
Ja, en dat is, dat is het gebrek aan debat. En, en wat zo moeilijk is, heel veel journalisten denken ook: ja, ik ben geen expert op dit onderwerp. Dus wie bellen ze? Negen van de tien keer zijn dat experts die toevallig
geld krijgen van Clingendael. Goh, die hebben toevallig banden met het ministerie van Defensie. Het debatcentrum De Balie. Oh, die krijgt toevallig geld van de NAVO. Oh, de duiders. De experts hebben negen van de tien keer geldstromen naar dat militair-industrieel complex.
