English transcript

John wants to come in from Tehran, Tehran view, John, are you bringing the Tehran view

or the Pakistani view tonight?

I will view, I will bring in my own views.

You can be the judge of whatever is going on.

But I will have to say, can you show me a single statement from any of the officials,

any of the state journalists?

I mean, you mentioned some analysts or editors or someone.

Can you mention any single statement from the Iranian side that the Iranians are not

happy with the Pakistanis?

It is the, it is the United States who the Iranians do not trust.

Pakistanis have been supporting Iran.

There are rallies which have been held in support of Pakistanis and the statements coming

in from all of the officials are in support of Pakistan.

So I don't know why you're pandering this Pak double game issue here, since there are

no reports in Tehran of any such statement or any such concern from Pakistan.

So I personally feel very offended, not just as a Pakistani, but in terms of the objective

analysis that we should have regarding this war, when the United States time and time again

has, you know, played the double game by itself.

And there is no, there is no doubt that it can also lie to Pakistan.

But questioning Pakistan's intentions, I don't think that's fair, since Pakistan has carried

forward this entire process with integrity and dignity.

And everyone has appreciated the role of Pakistan in this place.

So I don't know, I don't know which reports you are talking about when you're stating

it.

I would like to have some reference, please.

I'll tell you the reports which we are quoting, you know, they are those reports which say

that when Iran put across certain conditions during talks, the Pakistanis failed to communicate.

And this was a three-way communication, right?

The Pakistanis failed to take them to the Americans and get any redressal, while the American

positions were very religiously communicated by the Pakistani side and addressed by the

Iranians, the proof of which was opening of Hormuz, the proof of which was Americans not

opening the blockade.

So the proof of the pudding is in its eating, as they say.

And on the ground, the facts prove that the Pakistanis did not communicate properly.

Can you please show me some video, the facts are there on the ground, I'm saying the facts

are there on the ground.

Let me explain to him.

Let me explain.

I'm telling you, you're in Tehran, John, John, John, you're in Tehran, John, you're in Tehran.

I know you're in Tehran.

And there are video clips.

We just played that clip before we came to you.

We played that clip.

And I can send that clip to you.

It's in the Iranian state television.

I think the exact word that is being used is pro-American tilt.

They're questioning the pro-American tilt.

And how the talks have unfolded.

I'm sorry if I'm interjecting, I understand that there might be, because Israel and the

United States have been pushing this issue, the divide.

I don't think that this does exist.

Okay, let me do one thing.

Let's do one thing.

John, I'll see if I can, during the course of the debate, I'll see if during the course

of the debate, I'll see if I can just have my team send that clip to you.

Okay.

We'll try and do that.

We'll try and do that.