Discussion on Collective Responsibility in War

Gazy laid out the basics, as they say. What's your assessment of this

emotional speech?

Well, I don't know what to say. You know, you've decided to take bread out of

my mouth.

Well. No, actually, if we set aside the

emotions, the key points are stated very clearly.

And speaking of Viktor Anatolyevich, well, frankly, it surprises me

how, in this, this, this

kind of ideological fog, they can just just ignore things

that someone with such intellect and stature should, as they say,

know and quote by heart. We went through all this in '45,

in nineteen

forty-five.

Everyone knows what collective responsibility is.

And by the way, Konstantin, he kind of, he did note something very important

Why don't you want to draw parallels with Nazi Germany, as it were,

distinguishing them?

Because everything else, well, it all, it all falls into place exactly that way.

It's perfectly obvious, of course, that there is collective responsibility.

And we talked about this at the very start of the full-scale aggression.

Responsibility and guilt are not the same thing, actually.

Everyone bears responsibility, including you and me.

Because we, generally speaking, couldn't stop the slide

of the country toward a fascist

dictatorship. It's clear that our responsibility is somewhat

different, perhaps, from

from—from the responsibility of everyone who helped bring this war closer, but

nevertheless, we too bear, as it were, this trace

of collective responsibility. It rests on us too.

Now guilt is a different, different story.

Although, in principle, the Germans were made to repent for everything,

including, incidentally,

those who, generally speaking, who not only had something to do with it,

but even tried

to protest, in a way. But Germany had to overcome these

consequences.

It simply took a generation. And here we simply see

an outright unwillingness

even to discuss this issue at all.

That's why they are trying to completely deny the obvious.

Yes, of course. Gazy was absolutely right.

Yes, it will, it will, all this will happen. There will be trials, there will be reparations, all this

will happen. And it will take a very long time.

Absolutely phenomenal.

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