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Paddy Ashdown's Role in Kosovo Conflict
We somehow, don't ask me how, got hold of an authentic film
that proves that Paddy Ashdown,
as the English call him, was an envoy,
an emissary of the first
prime minister,
illegally crossed what was then the border of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia in
coordination with members of the KLA.
Across—
During the NATO bombing?
Immediately before that. Through the Junik Mountains.
They were, to put it as plainly as possible, they were goat
and donkey trails you can't get through even with
any kind of motorcycle or anything.
You can barely fly over them even in planes and helicopters and so on.
He crossed the border, arrived in a village in Kosovo,
at a house where… It was a classic Albanian
house
where, in the central reception room, there was, on tent flaps, a pile
of long guns,
weapons, from machine guns, light machine guns, and so on.
onoga i tako dalje.
And he inspected it barrel by barrel,
assessing the quality of those weapons. UÇK members in uniform
stood around him and kept silent while he did it.
And when he had finished, he said:
"Your weapons are no good.
I am the special envoy of the Prime Minister and
I came here to help you."
Tony Blair's, right?
And... that's right. Tony Blair's then. To kill
Serbs.
And can that be seen in the film?
It can be seen and heard in the film. So, there is no
trick in what I am saying now.
Kosovo, September '98. In the frame is Lord Paddy Ashdown, a member
of the British Parliament's House of Lords, later also High Representative of the
international community in Bosnia and Herzegovina, recently accused in the Bosnian
press of collaborating with British foreign intelligence.
Then, in early autumn, the lord, as a special envoy
of British Prime Minister
Tony Blair, inspected peaceful Albanian villages.
And you can use this right away.
I will personally convey your wishes to Prime Minister Blair.
Thank you very much.
You're welcome. Good luck.
What's painful is that, given that man there
did what he did, without intending to defend himself.
I can state that with certainty. I'm not defending him now, but it would be unfair
to say anything else. That man defended Serbian interests there
across a broad range of counts in the indictment that
were brought against him. And everything Bora is talking about now, and what
Goran is talking about, are the counts that were,
let's say, condensed into the indictment against him.
The Serbian media
not for a single moment, look, I believe that
All of us here, however many there are, except for the two of them, because they know.
We exchange experiences, among other things, we very often
encounter each other here and there as opponents, while all being very good friends,
all of us. The three of us specifically, yes. And we have certain exchanges
of information and so on and so forth.
They know that. The Serbian public is hearing this for the first time.
I have to tell you that at that moment, the composition of the Trial Chamber,
was still,
as I recall, Judge May was alive.
The prosecution side was made up entirely of Britons,
led by Nais.
It was…
after that evidence was presented in a closed session, it was a closed
session,
it was
both sad
and pathetic,
and interesting, with a certain pride, to watch their
faces because they were speechless.
What did they say?
Nothing.
Silence fell.
That evidence was simply fabricated.
No one—n-no one said a single word about it.
Did they know you had that film?
Of course not. We an-announced a VHS
recording from a village, without explaining what the film was about or where it was headed.
Was it entered into the court record?
Was it entered into the court record?
Of course. It is still in the court
records in The Hague to this day.
That,
that VHS recording is-is evidence
of the involvement of foreign services in what was done
before, during and after all these events
in Kosovo.
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Original transcript (Serbian)
Mi smo, to me nemojte pitati kako, došli do filma autentičnog koji je svedočanstvo o tome da je Paddy Ashdown, Englezi ga zovu, on je envoy, izaslanik prvog prime ministra,
ilegalno prešao tadašnju granicu Savezne Republike Jugoslavije u koordinaciji sa pripadnicima UČK-a. Preko- Za vreme NATO bombardovanja? Neposredno pre toga. Preko Junićkih planina.
To su, da budem onako krajnje plastičan, to su kozije magareće staze kojima ne možete da prođete ni ne znam kakvim motorom ili bilo čim. To se jedva nadleće i avionima i helikopterima i tako dalje. On je prešao granicu, došao u jedno selo na Kosovu,
jednu kuću u kojoj se... to je klasična šiptarska kuća u kojoj se u toj primačkoj sobi koja je centralna, na njoj na šatorskim krilima nalazila jedna gomila dugih cevi, naoružanja od mitraljeza, puškometraljeza, ovoga
onoga i tako dalje. I on je pregledao cev po cev, ocenjujući kvalitet tog oružja. Pripadnici UČK-a u uniformama su stajali oko njega i ćutali dok je on to radio. I onda kada je to okončao, onda je rekao:
"Oružje vam nije dobro. Ja sam specijalni izaslanik prvog ministra i došao sam ovde da vam pomognem." Tony Blaira, da? I... tako je. Tada Tony Blaira. Da ubijate
Srbe. I to se na filmu vidi? To se na filmu vidi i čuje. Dakle, ne postoji nikakav trik u onome što ja sada govorim. Kosovo, septembra '98. U kadru je lord Paddy Ashdown, član
Doma lordova britanskog parlamenta, posle i visoki predstavnik međunarodne zajednice u Bosni i Hercegovini, nedavno okrivljen u bosanskoj štampi za saradnju sa britanskom spoljnoobaveštajnom službom. Tada, rane jeseni, lord je u svojstvu specijalnog izaslanika britanskog premijera
Tonija Blera bio u inspekciji mirnih albanskih sela. A ovo možete iskoristiti odmah sada. Lično ću preneti vaša želja premijeru Bleru. Hvala vam veliko. Nema na čemu. Srećno.
Ono što je bolno, obzirom da je taj čovjek tamo radio to što je, što je radio bez namere da brani sebe. To mogu odgovorno da-da tvrdim. I sada ga ne branim, ali bi bilo nefer kada bi rekao bilo šta drugo. Taj čovjek je tamo branio srpske interese u jednom širokom dijapazonu tačaka optužnica koje
su njemu stavljene na teret. I sve ovo o čemu sada priča Bora i o čemu priča Goran su tačke optužnice koje su bile, hajde da kažem, zgusnute u optužnicu protiv njega. Srpski mediji nijednog jedinog trenutka, evo, ja verujem da
svi ljudi, koliko nas god ima ovde, bez njih dvojice, jer oni to znaju. Mi smo u razmeni iskustava, mi smo između ostalog, što se veoma često su-susrećemo tu i tamo kao protivnici, svi jako dobri prijatelji, svi. Nas trojica konkretno da. I imamo određene razmene informacija i tako dalje i tako dalje.
Oni to znaju. Srpska javnost je ovo čuje prvi put. Moram da vam kažem da je u tom trenutku sastav sudećeg veća, tada je još uvek bio, koliko se sećam, živ sudija May. Tužilačka strana kompletno su bili Britanci
na čelu sa Naisom. Bilo je... po izvođenju tog dokaza koji je bio na zatvorenoj sednici, to je bila closed session, bilo je
i tužno i jadno i sa određenim ponosom interesantno posmatrati njihova lica jer su bili bez teksta. Šta su oni rekli?
Ništa. Nastao je muk. Taj dokaz je jednostavno izveden. Niko ni-niko nijednu reč tim povodom nije rekao. Jesu oni znali da vi imate taj film?
Naravno da ne. Mi smo na-na-najavili jedan VHS snimak iz jednog sela bez obrazloženja šta i u kom pravcu taj film ide. Jel ušao u sudski spis? Naravno. I on se nalazi i dan-danas u sudskim
spisima u Haagu. Taj, taj VHS snimak je-je svedočanstvo o involviranosti stranih službi u onome šta je rađeno pre, za vreme i posle svih ovih događaja
na Kosovu.
