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We're also talking about what happened this week in the U.S. — this week the

far-right activist and Trump supporter Charlie Kirk was shot.

Afterwards her personal aide posted a so-called meme, a photo on which

it read, "we can take a look in a moment, oh no and anyway," which roughly

translates to something like, "what's that, I don't care."

He then deleted that post, saying right-wing extremists had put it into

a context that never existed.

Did he tell you in what context he posted it?

That same day there was, once again, a school massacre, and that was a

very cynical, but sadly also a very fitting way to say, about this "shoe massacre",

People just brush it off now, but I thought it was very good that they also called him

far-right, because this 'right-conservative' thing that was said about him

is simply not true.

He was a white supremacist, he was against the right to choose, he said,

he would force his ten-year-old daughter to give birth after a rape,

he is racist — those statements he makes are really shocking.

And I think you never celebrate anyone's death, but you also don't have to

have any pity for or any respect for that person.

But he framed that with regard to this shoe massacre, because that's a huge problem in the US.

is because Kirk, who was shot, also said, well, some victims are now

just the price we have to pay for our freedom to bear arms, and by that

satirically pointed out that on other issues this focus

didn't exist at all.

Not even, for example, with the murdered Democrats.

And that it could be misinterpreted — we discussed that, so he

also deleted it, but against exactly those right-wing media outlets that picked it up like that,

legal action is now also being taken.

And I say, very clearly, that this is absolutely right, and I am always very

surprised that precisely this ultra-right nationalist is now

mourned in so many places.

So I'm rather puzzled that, for example, the Junge Union would send such a mourning post

when you consider what kind of person that is.

The Democrats didn't do that back then, so that's also a question

you should ask yourself.

He was murdered, wasn't he?

Yes, by another Republican, and that's pretty problematic.

And you're surprised that people can mourn him when someone was murdered, regardless of who it was?

I don't know whether this is the person you'd say, oh, he was such a good guy and

he was such a right‑wing conservative; no, he was actually very problematic.

But like I said, you have to know who you're giving a platform to.

Do you have them?