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Most people have never thought about this: why is it that when a country’s
leader visits another country besides senior officials, they
also make a point of bringing a group of businesspeople from their own country?
What role do these businesspeople
actually play during negotiations between the two heads of state?
To showcase national power? Or just to visit and learn? Before a visit,
how does the president decide who gets to go and who does not?
Just a couple of days ago, the White House released the list of the business
delegation for Trump’s trip to China, what we call the CEO delegation.
But people noticed something unusual,
namely that this list seems to be much smaller than expected.
Hold on, today we are going to use Trump’s China visit as a chance to
really break this down.
When heads of state visit another country,
how exactly do they select which business leaders accompany them?
What exactly is their role?
And what is the real purpose of Trump’s visit to China this time?
Do you still remember Trump’s first visit to China in 2017?
He brought a full 29 business leaders.
It was a spectacular scene, they signed a batch of huge purchase deals,
the news footage was all handshakes and group photos. But this time,
there are only about 12 people.
And in the few months before Trump’s visit,
other national leaders also paid intensive visits to China.
For example, in January this year, British Prime Minister Starmer visited China and
brought representatives from nearly 60 British companies and institutions.
For example, at the end of February,
German Chancellor Merz visited China with a 30- member business delegation,
and even made a special trip to Hangzhou to visit Unitree Robotics.
In this comparison,
do those 12 Americans look even more striking? Many people might think,
the CEO delegation is just there to tag along, to make up the numbers,
create an atmosphere, and sign a few not- so- important purchase agreements.
So what does it matter if there are many people or few? Actually, it does matter.
In diplomacy, a CEO delegation actually has two dimensions of meaning,
and each dimension sends a very important signal.
The first dimension is the headcount,
which actually reflects that country’s level of expectation,
or you could say its“ signal of sincerity” in the negotiations.
It is like two companies negotiating a big merger.
If the other side sends twenty people— lawyers, finance staff, consultants,
industry experts all lined up— it shows they have already made this a top priority
and are throwing all their best resources into it.
But if the other side sends only three people, it shows they are still hesitating,
and have not decided whether to seriously do this deal.
Who they send, how many people they send,
is their way of telling the other side how much this matter is worth to them.
Beyond that, the number of businesspeople
in the delegation also shows how relaxed the United States is about trade controls.
According to reports,
part of the reason the list was cut this time was the insistence of U.S.
Trade Representative Katherine Tai. Why
would a trade representative care about how many people are in the CEO delegation?
Because she is trying to prevent one thing: businesspeople going off the leash.
Think about it, if Apple’s Tim Cook went, what would his first impulse be?
It would be to sell more iPhones in China, to keep the supply chain in China,
and to negotiate more cooperation with China.
All of that is good for Apple, but it might clash with the U.S.
government’s strategic goal of controlling dependence on Chinese technology.
The second dimension is,
whoever is on the list is the one sitting at the negotiating table.
For example, suppose you are a partner at a law firm and you are going to
negotiate a contract dispute with the other side.
You bring an intellectual property lawyer because you care about patents,
you bring a labor lawyer which shows your focus is on employee clauses.
And this time the U.S. list includes Nvidia and Qualcomm,
which shows that chip export controls will definitely be on the agenda.
With Boeing’s CEO and agricultural representatives on it,
that shows soybean and airplane purchases will also be put on the table.
This list is basically America’s“ priority list,”
you can see through it at a glance. So you might be wondering,
what is it that the United States really wants this time?
Actually, once we figure out the signaling mechanism of the CEO group,
we can read America’s four core demands from the list of names.
First, implement“ managed trade.”
The United States no longer believes that“ free trade” will
automatically benefit America.
What the United States wants now is more like a purchase limit in a supermarket.
Each person is limited to two cartons of eggs, it is not that you cannot buy them,
but I am the one who sets the rules. I will set the upper limit.
Second is the economic“ recovery.”
The Boeing CEO came along in person, he is not here for sightseeing.
Boeing used to be the single most important U.S. export product to China.
The price of one 737 MAX is roughly around one hundred million dollars.
After the 2019 737 MAX crash,
Chinese airlines slashed a large number of orders.
If China resumes purchases, the potential scale will exceed forty billion dollars.
This is life- saving money for Boeing,
and it is also a direct support for manufacturing jobs inside the United States.
Support. The logic behind agricultural products is even more political,
American soybean farmers in the Midwest are the Republican Party’s core voters.
Farmers in Iowa and those
states suffered heavy losses back then because of the trade war with China, and the
government handed out tens of billions of dollars in subsidies to make up for it.
If China resumes massive purchases of soybeans and beef, subsidies can be saved,
farmers are happy, and the political gains land directly in the bank.
Third,“ limited coexistence” in tech.
The fact that Nvidia and Qualcomm are on the list shows there is a real internal
contradiction in the U.S. that is tearing it apart.
The government wants to restrict China’s access to advanced chips,
but companies like Nvidia are shouting on Capitol Hill at the top of their lungs
that the bans are too harsh, and that we cannot keep doing business in China,
which in turn is letting Huawei move in and fill our place.
Fourth, strategic buffer.
The U.S. has not yet solved its Middle East problems, its overseas ammunition
depots are being heavily depleted, and its domestic economy is a mess.
At a time like this,
the most rational strategy is not to win a big war on some front,
but to stabilize things first and keep the situation from getting worse.
At this point you might ask,
with so many demands from the U.S., does China have any reason to cooperate?
The answer is that the reasons are very limited. In these years when the U.S.
has tried to blockade China with export controls, China’s AI R& D has not stopped.
Companies like Huawei and Cambricon have kept pushing ahead with self- developed
chips, and the pace of domestic substitution has been much faster than the outside
world expected. And at the application level,
the gap between China’s large models and AI products and the U.S.
cutting- edge level has already been compressed to just a matter of months.
The U.S. is very eager for China to buy Boeing planes and soybeans,
but China can buy Airbus, and it can buy Brazilian soybeans. Yet the U.S.
very much wants China’s rare earths, and it has no good alternatives.
So this situation can be summed up in one sentence: the U.S.
is holding a trump card that is depreciating,
and wants to trade it for things in China’s hands that have not yet depreciated.
This kind of deal is logically very hard to strike.
Overall, a scaled- down CEO delegation and a summit with expectations
carefully managed sent more signals than you might think. Guyu Wealth Management,
the private wealth manager everyone needs.
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Original transcript (Chinese)
大多数人都没有想过一件事情就是为什么当一个国家 领导人出访别国的时候 除了相关高官之外,还要特意带上一批自己国家的企 业家呢? 这些企业家在两国元首谈判的过程中到底扮演着什么 样的角色? 这些企业家在两国元首谈判的过程中到底扮演着什么 样的角色? 展现国力?还是参观学习?
在访问之前,国家总统又是怎么决定哪些人来哪些人 不能来的呢? 就在前两天,白宫公布了特朗普本次中国行的商业代 表团名单,也就是我们说的CEO团。 但是外界注意到一件反常的事,那就是这个名单好像 比预期的要小得多。 别急啊,今天我们就借着特朗普访华的机会,好好来 拆解下。 当各国元首访问它国时,到底是怎么筛选随行企业家 的?
当各国元首访问它国时,到底是怎么筛选随行企业家 的? 当各国元首访问它国时,到底是怎么筛选随行企业家 的? 他们的作用究竟是什么?以及特朗普本次访华的真正 目的。 他们的作用究竟是什么?以及特朗普本次访华的真正 目的。 还记得2017年特朗普首次访华吗?带来了整整2 9位企业家。
场面非常壮观,签了一批金额巨大的采购协议,新闻 画面里都是握手和合影。 可是这次呢,大概只有12个人左右。 而就在特朗普访华前几个月,其他国家领导人也密集 访问了中国。 比如今年1月,英国首相斯塔默访华,带来了将近6 0位英国企业和机构的代表。 比如2月底,德国总理默茨访华,带来了30人的商 业代表团,还专程去了杭州,参观了宇树科技。
比如2月底,德国总理默茨访华,带来了30人的商 业代表团,还专程去了杭州,参观了宇树科技。 这么一对比啊,美国的12人是不是显得更刺眼了呢 ? 这么一对比啊,美国的12人是不是显得更刺眼了呢 ? 很多人可能会觉得啊,CEO团不就是陪跑的吗?凑 人数、搞气氛,签几个无所谓的采购协议, 人多人少有什么关系?其实不是。
CEO团在外交里啊,其实有两个维度的意义,每一 个维度都在传递非常重要的信号。 首先第一个维度,就是人数规模,其实代表着这个国 家的期待值,或者说谈判的“诚意信号”。 首先第一个维度,就是人数规模,其实代表着这个国 家的期待值,或者说谈判的“诚意信号”。 这就好像两家公司在谈一笔大并购,如果对方来了二 十 个人,什么律师啊、财务啊、顾问、行业专家一字排 开
,说明他们已经把这件事当成了顶级优先项,把最好 的资源全压上了。 但是如果对方只来了三个人,说明他们在观望啊,还 没决定要不要认真做这笔生意。 谁来,来几个人,就是在告诉对方,这件事在我这里 值多少分量。 除此之外呢,代表团里商人的数量,还意味着美国对 贸易管控的宽松度。 除此之外呢,代表团里商人的数量,还意味着美国对 贸易管控的宽松度。
据报道,这次名单的缩减,有一部分是美国贸易代表 格里尔坚持的结果。 据报道,这次名单的缩减,有一部分是美国贸易代表 格里尔坚持的结果。 一个贸易代表,为什么要管CEO团的人数?因为他 在防一件事:商人失控。 一个贸易代表,为什么要管CEO团的人数?因为他 在防一件事:商人失控。 你想想啊,苹果的库克如果去了,他第一个冲动是什 么?是在中国多卖iPhone,
是把供应链留在中国,是和中国谈更多合作。 这些对苹果是好事啊,但可能和美国政府管控对华技 术依赖的战略目标冲突。 第二个维度是,谁在名单上,谁就在谈判桌上。 第二个维度是,谁在名单上,谁就在谈判桌上。 举个例子啊,假设你是一家律所的合伙人,要去和对 方谈合同纠纷。
你带了知识产权律师,因为你在乎的是专利;你带了 劳工律师,说明你的重点是员工条款。 而这次美国名单里有英伟达和高通,说明芯片出口管 制肯定是议题。 有波音的CEO、有农产品代表,说明大豆和飞机的 采购也要摆上桌。 这份名单,就是美国的“优先级列表”,一眼就能看 穿。 那你可能会想问了,美国这次真正想要的是什么呢?
那你可能会想问了,美国这次真正想要的是什么呢? 其实搞清楚CEO团的信号机制之后,我们就能从名 单里读出美国的四个核心诉求。 第一,落实“管理贸易”。美国已经不再相信“自由 贸易”能自动对美国有利了。 第一,落实“管理贸易”。美国已经不再相信“自由 贸易”能自动对美国有利了。 现在美国想要的,更像是超市里的限购令。
现在美国想要的,更像是超市里的限购令。 鸡蛋每人限购两盒,不是不让你买啊,但我来定规则 , 我来定上限。 第二,就是经济“回血”。 波音CEO亲自随行,不是来旅游的啊。
波音曾经是美国对华出口里最重要的单一产品。 一架737MAX的价格大约在一亿美元左右。 中国航空公司在2019年737MAX坠机事件后 ,大量削减了订单。 如果中国恢复采购,潜在规模超过四百亿美元。 这对波音是救命钱,对美国国内的制造业就业也是直 接
这对波音是救命钱,对美国国内的制造业就业也是直 接 支撑。 爱荷华这些州的农场主,当年因为对华贸易战损失惨 重,政府发了几十亿美元补贴来弥补。 爱荷华这些州的农场主,当年因为对华贸易战损失惨 重,政府发了几十亿美元补贴来弥补。 如果中国恢复大量采购大豆和牛肉,补贴省了,农场 主高兴,政治红利直接到账。
第三,科技“有限共存”。英伟达和高通出现在名单 上,说明美国内部有一个真实的矛盾正在撕裂。 第三,科技“有限共存”。英伟达和高通出现在名单 上,说明美国内部有一个真实的矛盾正在撕裂。 政府想限制中国获得先进芯片,但英伟达们在国会山 喊 破喉咙啊,你们禁得太狠,我们在中国的生意做不下 去 啊,反而搞得华为正在填我们的位置。
第四,战略缓冲。美国中东问题还没解决啊,海外弹 药库消耗得厉害,国内的经济还焦头烂额。 第四,战略缓冲。美国中东问题还没解决啊,海外弹 药库消耗得厉害,国内的经济还焦头烂额。 这时候最理性的战略,不是在某条战线赢一场大战, 而是先稳住,不让情况继续变烂。 这时候最理性的战略,不是在某条战线赢一场大战, 而是先稳住,不让情况继续变烂。 说到这儿你可能会问,美国有这么多诉求,中国有没 有理由配合?
说到这儿你可能会问,美国有这么多诉求,中国有没 有理由配合? 答案是理由很有限。就在美国用出口管制封锁中国的 这几年,中国的AI研发并没有停下来。 华为、寒武纪这些公司持续推进自研芯片,国产替代 的进度比外界预期要快得多。 而且在应用层面,中国的大模型和AI产品,与美国 顶尖水平之间的差距已经被压缩到几个月的量级。 而且在应用层面,中国的大模型和AI产品,与美国 顶尖水平之间的差距已经被压缩到几个月的量级。
而美国很想要中国买波音、买大豆,但中国可以买空 客,可以买巴西大豆。 但美国很想要中国的稀土,且没有很好的替代。 所以这个局面用一句话来描述就是,美国拿着一张正 在贬值的王牌,想换中国手里还没贬值的东西。 这笔买卖,从逻辑上就很难谈成。 总的来说,一个缩了水的CEO团,一次精心管理了 期望值的峰会,传递的比你想象中更多的信号。
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