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Discussion on Legal Judgment and Conspiracy

The verdict, the final verdict, I'm quoting the exact words, that we do not have any

direct evidence to prove that there was a conspiracy and Afzal Guru

was involved.

But we are still hanging him to satisfy the collective conscience of

society. This is shameful. It is a shameful judgment.

Sir, do you think our country's courts blindfold you?

But there was extreme haste. They had told me this much, that

we had to go inside, enter the Lok Sabha, and there the

MPs

had to be attacked. Who was helping them with this entire operation?

I was helping them. And who was helping you?

These people were helping me. Who was behind them?

Behind them was their leader, Ghazi Baba. And

who was helping Ghazi Baba from behind?

Ghazi Baba was from Pakistan. He was their overall chief in Jammu and Kashmir

In it. So who was behind Ghazi Baba?

Who was sitting in Pakistan?

This was JeM's organization. What were you fighting for?

Basically, my

How can I put this in one word, that I…

So there was some motivation too. What motivation?

From their side, I mean Ghazi Baba's side. I can say, I mean, I can

put everything together and say that these things, I mean, these things led me to this.

For one, there was some motivation, and then there was the matter of money too. My

economic conditions had become very weak. This is also a part of this

that is why I became ready for this. And then my personal history

in the background.

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Original transcript (Hindi)

फैसला final फैसला I am quoting the exact words that we do not have any direct evidence to prove that there was a conspiracy and Afzal Guru was involved। लेकिन हम उसको फिर भी फांसी पर लटका रहे हैं to satisfy the collective conscience of the society। यह शर्मनाक बात है। शर्मनाक judgement है।

सर आपको लगता है कि हमारे देश की अदालतें आप पर पट्टे बांधती है पर अत्यंत जल्दी है। उन्होंने मुझे इतना बता दिया था कि हमें अंदर जाकर लोकसभा में घुसना है और वहां पर जो MPs है उन पर attack करना है। इस पूरे operation में इनकी मदद कौन कर रहा था?

मैं कर रहा था और आपकी मदद कौन कर रहा था? मेरी मदद तो यही कर रहे थे। पीछे से कौन? पीछे से इनका, इनका जो leader है गाजी बाबा। और गाजी बाबा को कौन मदद कर रहा था उनके पीछे? गाजी बाबा तो पाकिस्तान से। वो तो इनका पूरा chief जो है जम्मू कश्मीर

में। तो गाजी बाबा के पीछे कौन लोग थे? पाकिस्तान में जो बैठे हुए हैं कौन लोग थे? वो तो jesh की तंजिम है इसकी। आप किस चीज के लिए लड़ रहे थे? Basically मेरी क्या मैं इसको मैं एक word में कैसे बोल सकता हूं कि मैं

इसलिए कुछ कुछ motivation भी था। क्या motivation? इनकी तरफ से मतलब गाजी बाबा की तरफ से। मैं कह सकता हूं मतलब मैं सब चीजों को मिलाकर बोल देता हूं कि ये चीजें मतलब इन चीजों ने मुझे इस चीज पर ले आया। एक तो कुछ motivation था, ऊपर से पैसों का भी चक्कर था। मेरी अब economic conditions बहुत weak हो गई थी। This is also a part of this

that why I became ready for this। ऊपर से मेरी थोड़ी बहुत history जो है पीछे

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