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It's not our fault what came out. We didn't go into Egypt.

Well, we did. We didn't go into Egypt?

We were supporting and propping up Mubarak for 30 years

even as we were cheering for all the Tahrir Square demonstrators

as though we were on their side.

It was our government that kept Mubarak in power,

just like we've done across the entire Muslim world.

And... no, but... and it's amazing for you to say that, well, look at all these Muslims,

the minute you give them a little bit of freedom, they go wild

and they start being all violent.

How can you be a citizen of the United States,

the country that has generated more violence and militarism in the world

over the last five or six decades and say,

"Look at those people over there, they are incredibly violent"?

We play a significant role in what has been happening in the Middle East

because we've been interfering and dominating that region

in order to have access to their oil and protect Israel.

I wasn't talking about violence. I was talking about theocracy.

That doesn't happen here.

No, well, okay, that doesn't happen here, but at the same time,

Iran isn't invading lots of other countries and occupying them for a decade,

nor are fundamentalist Muslim countries the way the United States is.

So these things are interlinked because we are continuously interfering

in that part of the world. And so to say...

So it's all our fault?

It's not all our fault, but when you send your military

for six straight decades into other countries

to bomb them, kill their children and women and innocent men,

prop up dictators, yeah, you take responsibility

for your actions and say to the extent that that region is...

That religion goes back a thousand years before our revolution.

So I don't think we can take all the blame.

I don't think we should. I think we should take a lot of it.

And there's lots of bodies and corpses that have been piled up

in the name of Christianity and Judaism as well.

Not recently.

Have you heard of the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza for the last 50 years,

motivated in part by extremist views of Judaism?

Or the wars in Europe?

Or the fact that there were generals in the United States saying we have to go in

and invade and destroy Iraq, a country of 26 million people,

because our God is bigger?

Lots of religions, not just Islam, produce violence.

Well, if I could just make one quick point about Egypt...

You know, that's just a silly liberal view that all religions are alike

because it makes you feel good.

No, it makes you feel good to say our side is better,

those people over there are primitive and violent.

No, it makes you feel good to put a crown on your head and say,

"I'm a good person. How do I prove that?"

You get to ignore the responsibility that your own government has

for the violence and instability in the world by saying,

"Look, it's that primitive religion over there that's to blame."

All right, it's time for...