Transcript · Malay → English
Diplomatic Actions Against Haze Issues
I'll give you some leeway.
I think Muar could one day become Prime Minister.
If Muar becomes Prime Minister, what action would you take
on this haze issue with Indonesia?
If Muar were Prime Minister right now,
what action would Muar take
against the Indonesian government to address the burning problem and its
resulting haze, which we are currently facing as a major health
problem, a very serious one. Please, Muar,
I want a response from Muar.
I've shared two points. I propose issuing a diplomatic protest note,
not just
from Malaysia, but from ASEAN.
You need to treat them as an outcast in the region.
Not just Malaysia, but diplomatic pressure from the
region must be very strong. Second, ensure that Malaysia mobilizes
not just
Malaysia, but Singapore is the largest capital contributor. Big banks.
Maybank, CIMB, DBS, which lend substantial capital to
companies
in Indonesia that are also linked to this slash-and-burn issue,
must no longer be given access. Cut off their access.
Hurt their wallets so they do not take action.
And third, it is the same as how Tun Dr. Mahathir
did back then when
fight the UK when there is a problem. You cannot just expect
the government to act. Go to the people. Go to the public.
Ensure that Malaysians also join forces and
protest through financial means.
We have the power and the purchasing power that ultimately
Indonesian companies
will fear. Because ultimately, even Malaysia
Its capital is only thirty million people, but for example, from
a purchasing perspective, we are among the highest in the region per
capita.
Although our population is not as large as three hundred million. We can do it!
But we need to mobilize the people, the largest capital markets, the
largest banks in Malaysia. And not just Malaysia, but
make full use of this
as a whole. I think we should do that. We hit them where it hurts them the most.
Only then will there be action. I want to convince the people of Muar
for example, you need to
care about the environment. They say, what's the point?
Even if I comply for five years, a neighboring country can burn a forest the size of a state,
it will still be destroyed. I'm the one who gets sick too.
If there is no firm action, believe me, this issue will
continue. No matter who the Prime Minister is.
No matter who is in government. And we need to know that this haze issue
is no longer a small issue. When our children cannot go to
school. Schools close.
This is no small matter because of the severe haze caused by slash-and-burn
tactics by a neighboring country. Our children cannot receive the education
they deserve. What can Malaysia do?
We need a solution.
First of all, we need to make sure, and it is not enough for us
to merely make calls to the
President. We cannot. We need to do more.
First, we need to send a firm diplomatic note stating that Malaysia objects, and
not just Malaysia objects.
This matter needs to be jointly agreed upon by ASEAN, especially by neighboring countries
that
are also affected, such as Singapore. We must send a very clear diplomatic
protest.
Second, Malaysia and Singapore have similarities and
influence. That is, we also provide
significant capital to companies in Indonesia.
Singapore has DBS Bank. In Malaysia, there are Maybank and CIMB, which
also operate in
Indonesia. We need to be very stern.
Companies even slightly involved in these slash-and-burn tactics,
they must be kept out of the system and must no longer be given access to capital
markets, not just in Malaysia and Singapore, but even access to
loans from our institutions. We need to hit them where they
hurt the most. Otherwise, this will continue.
Malaysian companies, Singaporean companies involved
named
by Greenpeace. Malaysia needs to take action against
them.
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Original transcript (Malay)
Saya beri sedikit laluan. Saya rasa Muar ni satu hari nanti boleh jadi Perdana Menteri. Kalau Muar jadi Perdana Menteri, isu jerebu ni dengan Indonesia ni apa tindakan? Kalau Muar sebagai Perdana Menteri sekarang ni,
apa tindakan yang Muar nak buat kepada kerajaan Indonesia untuk mengatasi masalah pembakaran dan juga mengakibatkan masalah jerebu yang kita sekarang ni tengah menghadapi satu masalah kesihatan yang, yang sangat besar. Sila Muar, saya mahu respond daripada Muar.
Saya dah kongsikan dua. Saya rumuskan satu nota Diplomatic Protest bukan setakat dari Malaysia tetapi sebagai ASEAN. You need to treat them as an outcast in the region. Bukan setakat Malaysia tetapi tekanan diplomatik daripada peringkat
region ini sangat kuat. Kedua, pastikan bahawa Malaysia mengembeling bukan setakat Malaysia tetapi Singapura yang merupakan penyumbang modal terbesar. Big banks. Maybank, CIMB, DBS yang meminjamkan modal besar kepada syarikat-syarikat
di Indonesia yang turut terkait dengan isu Slash and Burn ini tidak boleh diberikan akses lagi. Cut their access. Hurt their wallet supaya mereka tidak bertindak. Dan ketiga, sama saja bagaimana Tun Doktor Mahathir dulu bila
berentap dengan UK apabila ada masalah tidak boleh hanya mengharapkan kerajaan untuk bertindak. Go to the people. Go to the public. Pastikan bahawa rakyat Malaysia turut bersama mengembeling tenaga dan melakukan protes daripada sudut kewangan. We have the power and the purchasing power yang akhirnya
syarikat-syarikat Indonesia akan takut. Kerana akhirnya walaupun Malaysia modalnya hanya tiga puluh juta orang, tetapi contohnya daripada sudut pembelian, we are among the highest in the region per capital.
Walaupun jumlah penduduk kita taklah sebesar tiga ratus juta. We can do it! Tetapi perlu mengembeling tenaga rakyat, modal-modal pasaran terbesar, bank-bank terbesar di Malaysia. Dan tidak cukup Malaysia tetapi menggunakan penuh ini secara keseluruhan. I think we do that. We hit them where it hurts them the most.
Barulah akan ada tindakan. Saya nak yakinkan pula orang Muar contohnya, you need to care about environment. Kata buat apa? Saya ikut lima tahun pun negara jiran boleh bakar satu hutan saiz negeri, hancur juga. Saya juga yang sakit.
Kalau tidak ada tindakan yang tegas, percayalah isu ini akan berterusan. Tidak kira siapa pun Perdana Menteri. Tidak kira siapa pun er kerajaan. Dan kita perlu tahu isu jerebu ni bukan lagi isu kecil. Anak-anak kita bila tak boleh pergi sekolah. Sekolah tutup.
Ini bukan perkara kecil kerana jerebu yang teruk yang dibuat oleh Slash and Burn tactic oleh negara jiran. Anak-anak kita tidak dapat pendidikan yang patut mereka terima. Apa yang boleh Malaysia lakukan? Kita perlu ada solusi. Pertama sekali, kita perlu pastikan dan tak cukup kita
hanya buat panggilan kepada President. Tak boleh. We need to do more. Kita pertama perlu hantar nota diplomatik yang tegas bahawa Malaysia membantah dan bukan setakat Malaysia membantah. Perkara ini perlu dipersetujui bersama oleh ASEAN khususnya oleh negara jiran
yang turut terkesan seperti Singapura. We must send a very clear diplomatic protest. Kedua, Malaysia dan Singapura ada persamaan dan pengaruh. Iaitu kita juga yang memberikan
modal besar kepada syarikat-syarikat di Indonesia. Singapore have DBS Bank. Di Malaysia ada Maybank dan CIMB yang turut beroperasi di Indonesia. We need to be very stern. Syarikat-syarikat walaupun sedikit pun terkait dengan Slash and Burn tactic ini,
they must be kept out from the system dan tidak boleh dapat lagi akses modal pasaran bukan setakat di Malaysia dan Singapura but even to access loans from our institution. We need to hit them where they hurt the most. Kalau tidak, perkara ini akan berterusan. Syarikat-syarikat Malaysia, syarikat-syarikat Singapura yang terkait
dinamakan oleh Greenpeace. Malaysia perlu ambil tindakan ke atas mereka.
