Discussion on Hamas and Gaza Conflict

Hamas is considered an abductor of two million people,

two million living human beings. Hostages.

Anyone among them who wants to speak out about freedom of expression,

or talk about anything,

will lose their life immediately.

Just the mere thought, if they even dare to think, they will lose their balance,

their identity, and their mind, and they will kill him, and maybe kill his family,

and kill anyone who defends him. Up to this very minute.

Even if a leader dies every day,

how long are you going to keep holding the people hostage? Just so we understand.

If I wanted to see where Hamas leaders are today, where are they? In hospitals.

In areas for ultrasound scans of pregnant women.

And imaging rooms, the CT scan machines under the hospitals.

Because it's a done deal.

I mean, they don't want to live.

These are people who want wars, they want, I mean,

more sermons in mosques, and more talk in mosques.

They want to brainwash people with wars, fighting, hatred, and these things.

That's why I chose my path from the beginning.

I said," No, I have to travel and live abroad."

Because, honestly, it just doesn't work for me to live there.

If your face was revealed, for example, if you revealed your face,

what would happen to your family in Gaza, for example?

For us, there is nothing but killing.

Killing is all we have, human life has no value in Gaza anyway. It's all killing.

You are completely soaked in killing.

Anything you want to do leads to killing.

If you deny, it's killing; if you speak, it's killing.

They are taught to be abusive.

I mean, they've taken all kinds of extremism and imposed them on us as a

culture and a way of life, as if humanity lives like this.

You are spreading hatred, you are spreading…

spreading your ideological thoughts,

which is the ideology of killing, and the Jews, and Khaybar, and I don't know what,

from 1,400 years ago.

What do we have to do with that today?

You bring me a story from 1,400 years ago and apply it to me today?

But the world changes!

The idea of October 7th, when you ask someone in Gaza about October 7th,

for example, they'll tell you," Honestly, it brought us destruction and so on."

What did he bring us, destruction?

If he hadn't brought us destruction, would that have been good?

Before you say he brought us destruction, say it was an inhumane act.

- October 7th.- Exactly. Say it was an inhumane act.

That in three hours they killed this many, they imprisoned this many,

they took women, they took children, the act is inhumane.

Then you can say he brought us destruction!

Do you, for example, know someone personally,

do you know people from Hamas living here in Europe?- Of course.

Of course, of course, of course.

Shops, they have restaurants for Hamas.

Yes, yes, of course they have restaurants, they have exchange offices,

they have supermarkets, they have...

and where does all this support go? To Hamas.

And you know them personally from Gaza,

and they are Al- Qassam Brigades? Yes, indeed.

The person who was interrogating me when I left the State of Israel is in

Antwerp and holds Belgian citizenship.