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COVID Lab Leak Controversy Discussion
Jadi tak lama setelah itu, terjadilah COVID.
Jadi saat itu, kayak, eh,
awal 2021, mungkin Januari, Februari.
Kulihat di internet dan di tempat lain
orang-orang yang kuanggap pintar dan serius,
Jamie Menzel,
k- eh, banyak yang bilang, eh, dan la- dan lainnya, "Mungkin ini bocor dari
lab."
Dan aku merasa, "Wah, menarik juga." Jadi aku mendatangi
Nightline, kukatakan, "Hei,
tahu tidak, aku ingin meliput tentang..."
Dan mereka bilang, "Bagus.
Ya, ayo kita buat."
Jadi kami, kami s- secara menyeluruh, kami berbicara dengan, tahu tidak,
a- ahli virologi molekuler, kami bicara dengan orang-orang di
pemerintahan Trump,
eh, yang pernah ada di pemerintahan Trump.
Kami mengungkap sedikit berita bahwa...
l-, lab itu telah didanai militer
Tiongkok meski si wanita kelelawar bilang
tidak demikian.
Mm-hmm.
Eh, dan itu dari bagian keamanan, info dari, dari
dalam, ehm, salah satu lembaga tiga huruf di
pemerintah.
Dan kami coba memaparkannya, dan pada akhirnya,
perasaan pribadiku
adalah, kau tahu,
setelah bicara ke semua orang… kurasa mungkin sedikit lebih
besar kemungkinan itu alami, tapi jika kau bilang itu bocor dari laboratorium,
tak masalah.
Dan mungkin tidak direkayasa. Mungkin bukan virus Frankenstein.
Tapi aku tidak menarik kesimpulan itu, aku hanya memaparkannya.
Dan kami siap meluncurkannya, dan pada hari yang seharusnya tayang, liputan itu
ditinjau, lalu dikembalikan padaku, dan hasilnya
tak bisa dipahami.
Dan aku…
Aku belum per— belum pernah semarah itu.
Aku di, aku di bilik—
Dan mereka ini pengacara?
Standar pengacara.
Dan aku diberi tahu,
"Fauci."
Oh?
Dan kukatakan, "Aku tak bisa begini, dan mereka akan
tayang, dan mereka…" Kau tahu, ini liputan du— 15 menit atau apalah, dan
aku mengumpat dan berteriak di dalam, di dalam bilik.
Dan ini pada hari H?
Hari penayangan.
Dan aku benar-benar sangat murka, sampai lupa diri, dan
aku… Dan biasanya aku…
A-aku berusaha menjadi rekan kerja yang baik dalam hal itu.
Uh, penting untuk menghormati
seseorang di ujung lain mikrofon itu
yang mendengarkannya di New York, jadi mereka… Dan, dan penyuntingnya.
Dan aku— tapi aku…
A-aku tak pernah menonton liputan itu, dan takkan pernah mau.
Karena kupikir itu bukan karyaku, dan terutama karena itu
tidak bisa dipahami. Mereka memasukkan begitu banyak sanggahan
dan begitu banyak hingga…
dan begitu sarat bahasa hukum dan l— uh—
Tunggu, jadi mereka mengambil liputan yang kaubuat dan
entah mengirim salinan transkrip atau salinan video kepada Anthony
Fauci?
Itu p- pasti, ee, ee, itu pasti naskahnya.
Em, ee, i- itu yang dikatakan padaku. Aku tidak tahu
secara pribadi apakah itu benar, tapi aku diberi tahu begitu.
Dan hanya dengan menduga bahwa itu bukan
pasar basah dan merupakan kebocoran lab itu
berbahaya?
Ya, kalau kau... Kau tahu cerita lengkapnya, 'kan?
Ada, ee, ada kampanye terorganisasi oleh salah satu
orang yang mendanai
penelitian di, ee, siapa namanya? Dat- DASAK atau a- apa pun itu.
Mm-hmm.
Ee, mengajak para ilmuwan setuju dan berkata, "Mustahil ada kebocoran lab,"
dan siapa pun yang berkata bahwa ini berasal dari lab, kau tahu,
i-
ikut serta dalam rasisme atau semacamnya.
Ee, dan itu sangat membungkam... Maksudku, standar kami, ee, ABC
Tim standar News benar-benar menganggapnya serius, dan itu
tidak akan
di- eh, dibahas sebagai, eh… Potensi itu dimatikan untuk
sementara waktu.
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Original transcript (English)
So shortly after, it was COVID. So it was, like, uh, early in 2021, maybe January, February. I'm seeing online and elsewhere people that I thought were smart and serious,
Jamie Menzel, m- uh, mostly saying, uh, and o- and others, "Maybe this leaked from the lab." And I was like, "Well, that's interesting." So I went to Nightline, I said, "Hey,
you know, I'd like to do a story on..." And they were like, "Great. Yeah, let's do it." So we, we just r- across the board, we, we talked to, you know, m- molecular virologists, we talked to people in the Trump
administration, uh, who had been in the Trump administration. We broke a little news that there... the, that lab had been funded by the Chinese military despite the bat lady saying
no it hadn't. Mm-hmm. Uh, and that came from the security, uh, uh, a tip from, from inside the, um, one of the three letter agencies in the government.
And we kind of laid it out, and at the end of the day, my own personal feeling was, you know, I, talking to everybody, it's... uh, I thought it's probably a little bit more likely it's natural, but if you told me it had leaked from the lab,
fine. And it's probably not cooked up. It's probably not a Franken-virus. But I didn't, I didn't reach that conclusion, I just laid it out. And we're ready to go, and the day that it, that it's supposed to air, it gets reviewed, and it comes back to me, and it is
incomprehensible. And I'm... I had never be- I had never been angrier. I'm in the, I'm in the booth- And these are lawyers?
Lawyer standards. And I was told, "Fauci." Oh? And I said, "I can't do this, and they're going to
air, and they..." You know, it's a tw- 15-minute piece or whatever, and I'm cursing and screaming in the, in the booth. And this is day of? Day of air. And I'm just absolutely livid beside myself, and
I was... And I'm usually... I, I tried to be a good colleague that way. Uh, it's important to be respectful of somebody on the other end of that mic taking it in in New York, so they were... And, and the editor.
And I w- but I was... I c- I, I've never watched that story, and never want to. Because it wasn't mine, I didn't think, and because, most importantly, because it was incomprehensible. They had put so many caveats in there and so many that...
and it was so legalized and l- uh- Wait, so they took the story that you did and either sent a copy of a transcript or a copy of the video to Anthony Fauci? It w- it would've been, uh, uh, it would've been the script.
Um, uh, th- that's what I was told. I don't know that that's true personally, but I was told that. And the idea was just suggesting that it wasn't a wet market and it was a lab leak was dangerous?
Well, if you... You know the whole story, right? There, uh, there was an organized campaign by one of the guys who was funding the research at, uh, what was the name? Dat- DASAK or w- whatever. Mm-hmm.
Uh, to get scientists to sign on and say, "There's no way there's a lab leak," and anybody who says that, that, that this came from the lab is, you know, p- participating in racism or something. Uh, and that really silenced... I mean, our standards, uh, ABC
News's standards people took that absolutely to heart, and it was not going to be d- uh, discussed as, uh... That potential was killed for a while.