Arabic → English transcript

-… State Security.- You mean before the revolution?- No,

after the revolution.- After the revolution, I was not…

Three days I stayed, Your Honor,

the revolution they went out on Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday afternoon,

after the problem happened between me and the head of the National Security Office,

General Hisham Bekhtyar

at noon or in the morning hours,

a dispute happened between him and me about how to deal with it,

I disagreed with him, in the evening, after noon,

the Minister of Interior calls me and asks me a question,

he says,“ Atif, what did you do?” I told him,“ What is it?”

He said,“ He told me such and such and such and such about you.”

I told him,“ May you be richly rewarded,”

and the Minister of Interior will testify for me, you can ask him if he is around,

I do not know.- All right, Atif, now a group of… The children who were

detained all of them, if not every single one,

are saying that you were present during their interrogation. - Your Honor…

- So what do you want,

why are they all in agreement about accusing you?- Your Honor,

this whole matter has spread completely on Facebook—

but they are here,

they are the people who were exposed directly.- No one was ever detained by me and

no The child and Sheikh Ahmad al- Sayasneh…

– Okay, maybe you saw them in another branch– I swear I did not see them,

not in another branch either

And I have never…— and you all cooperated with each other on the investigation,

Your Honor, this is a matter they are the ones cooperating on,

and we cannot cooperate with them on it, nor do they accept cooperation on it,

he came to me His Honor Judge Sheikh Ahmed Al- Sayyasneh,

after this whole issue happened with the young men who wrote on the school wall

maybe shortly after, he asked to see

me and they told me,“ Sheikh Ahmed Al- Sayyasneh wants to come to see you.”

I said,“ When?” They said,“ Whenever you set the time for him.”

I asked him when he wanted to come, and he actually came around noon.

I said,“ What’s up, shaykh?”

He said,“ Honestly, I’m embarrassed.”“ What is it?” He said,“ These kids…”

I asked him,“ Which kids?” He said,“ Those guys.”

I told him,“ Okay, what do I have to do with it?”

He said,“ I know, you need to talk to them for us.”

I took off my headset and called the head of the Military Security branch,

Brigadier General Suhail Ramadan. He did not answer in Daraa,

so I called him on his number in Sweida,

and he answered me I asked him a question in front of Sheikh Ahmad,

while I was sitting with Sheikh Ahmad, there was no one else

We greeted him,“ How are you, Abu Muhammad?” He said,“ By God, thank God,”

and we said to him

“ Look, these kids you took in Daraa,

are you ever going to stop leaving them, is that their job?” - You only, I mean,

intervened as a mediator with Sheikh Sayasneh?- The sheikh…”