Did Jesus Call Gentiles Dogs? A Debate on Matthew 15
Okay. In a, in a book of Matthew 15 verse 22 to
26, there is a story. In your book, there is a
Canaanite, non-Jewish woman, a Gentile.
She's coming to JC, and she ask him to cure her daughter,
that she has a demon that penetrated her body.
And he answer to her, "I only came from the nation of Israel,
not for
the Gentiles." She continued to beg, and he s- and he say
to her, "I cannot replace the Jews
bet- I cannot re-
Can I ask you a question real quick?
"I cannot replace the Jews with dogs." "I cannot replace
the Jews-"
There's not that many words on there, right?
Listen-
What are you reading?
I cannot re-
There's, like, 40 words
... I cannot replace the Jews-
... with dogs. And she answer him- I'm not gonna read ...
... with dogs. And she answer him- I'm not gonna read ...
she answer him, "Even the dogs-" Look how many words there
is. I can't understand.
"Even the master of-" There's, like, 20 words there
... Jesus is happy. He got it printed.
"Even the master of the dogs give them the crumbs." He's making it up as he
goes.
It's ta- takes talent.
I, I write it brief to myself, but I know the whole story.
Okay.
So I'm not gonna read the whole page now.
Okay.
I make myself notes. So now I repeat, because you interrupted me.
Oh, no. So j- the woman, a woman, a non-Jew- Oh, no ...
a non-Jewish woman come to JC. She tells him, "Please cure
my daughter. She has a demon in her." He say to her,
"I did not come for the
Gentiles. I came only for the Jews." She say to him,
"Okay, we also
people. Help me out." He say, "I cannot replace the Jews with dogs."
She say to him, "Even the owner of the dog give him some
crumbs."
And in the end, he went and helped her out.
This is-
And so-
... this is in your book.
Yes.
He's calling both of you dogs.
Yes. Very tough.
Y- your hero is-
And my response
... your hero is calling you dogs. Missionary response now.
That's exactly right.
You tell me- Your response ... you tell me, please-
All right.
Missionary response ... how, how can God call human being dogs?
Now let's hear it. Please tell me that.
All right.
How can God call you dogs?
All right. Here we go.
Let's hear it.
Here it comes.
I, I do that all the time. You guys can handle that question?
There we go.
You do it all the time.
It's a tough one. Very tough one.
Let's see. Let's see.
Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah.
Let's see. That's directly-
All right. We read the gospels. Good one.
All right, so it gets to the very heart of Judaism,
you're exactly right, where
Jesus came for the Jews, and you rewind it all the way back into
the Old Testament.
Obviously, the promise to Abraham is ultimately the Israelites to get
to the promised land. And now what are they doing?
They can't intermarry, obviously.
Right.
And these wars that go on, God is saying there's immorality going on with
other
nations as well, so they're fighting through,
not intermarrying with other nations,
so it's still the chosen people, and they are judging other people groups
But don't forget, God judges the Jews too, 'cause they're just as bad.
Fast-forward to the New Testament, this passage, what you have here
is Jesus saying
there are still chosen people, but the crumbs go to the
dogs. And what he's having her do in that specific
context is she starts to think, "Wow, so even we get the crumbs."
But then how does he further tease that out?
Obviously, he teases it out by saying that all are created his, in His
image, and all are chosen people, just like the Israelites
are a chosen people, but
a light to all nations, over and over again in the Old Testament.
And you have it further-
Are we talking about these type-
... fleshed out-
... of Israelites or the Black ones?
Yeah. This came up with them, yeah.
Yeah.
Good, good memory.
But which one are you talking about?
Uh, I'm talking about these ones.
Oh.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
The Black ones are funnier, though.
And they have a lot more swag. Would you agree with that?
So that's the whole point.
The, the Black Israelites-
It's the Jews are the chosen-
Have more, they have more swag
... but-
He tried his best there ... they're funnier.
But it's ultimately-
The Black, the Black, the Black-
... to all nations. That's why Paul goes on in Galatians 3:28
and says that there's
neither Jew nor Greek, okay?
The Black-
Do you s- do you see what's going on here?
Ultimately, it is the Jews that are chosen,
but they're a light to all nations, and
Jesus is just giving a simple parable here showing, yes, you answered correctly.
Even the dogs get the crumbs, in the sense of they
are considered dogs at the time-
I'd rather-
... but they are the Gentiles
... I'd rather be-
And they're saved as well
... I'd rather-
And Paul fleshes that out
... I'd rather be in the sides-
So-
... of the holy chosen children of God than
the sides of the dogs.
And that sounds very arrogant.
You wanna be on the other side, it's up to you.
I wish I was chosen, too.
But wait, wait, wait. Did you say children of God? That
was almost racist.
Yeah, that was racist, arrogant. That was everything you just said.
That's racist in the Torah, actually.
Oh, man. Be careful with that one.
No. What do you mean? How does God have children?
Be very careful with that one. Yeah.
All right. I, I don't understand.
And when the Bible says the Jews are the chosen people-
In every church, in every church in the world-
He doesn't understand how, how Jews
cannot be superior ... I don't get... You know what I just realized today?
It means that the Jews-
Both of you contradict Christianity completely
... God chose to communicate through the
Jewish people.
You did the job for me.
That's right.
I didn't even need to debate you.
You're listening well right now, aren't you?
Because in every church-
You are that
... and in every Christian book, they call the Jews the chosen
people-
Yeah, what does that mean?
... the children of God. Mm. And you come and say-
You think that means Jews are superior to Gentiles?
... there's no difference between... I don't get it.
No, sir.
So you contradicting the, o-
We're all human beings created in the image of God
... the Old Testament. You don't believe in the Torah.
Oh, I sure do.
So make up your mind.
Genesis 1:26-27.
Make up your mind
... God created man in His own image.
Do you, do you believe that the Jew,
uh, by-
Male and female He created them
... do you believe that the Jews are superior to the Gentiles?
Male and female He created them.
I, it doesn't matter what I believe.
It's
that simple. It's not that complex.
That's the whole, that's exactly the- It, it does not matter my personal opinion.
That's the whole, that's exactly the- It, it does not matter my personal opinion.
I- Okay. Do you believe that that's what God said?
I'm read- I'm reading to you what's written in the
Torah. In the Torah.
Is that what it says? "You are my children.
I chose you from all the nations-"
What does that mean?
"... to be mine."
They keep getting judged.
"Do not-"
They keep getting judged, though.
"Do not imitate the Gentiles."
Who were adapting to captivity by first the Assyrians-
Yeah
... and then the Babylonians.
You guys got judged nonstop, man. I don't, I don't understand.
You don't let me finish a sentence.
When you've been getting judged-
Oh, come on
... your whole life.
You don't let me finish a sentence. Oh, come on.
You have spoken more than anybody here.
Don't let me-
I, I, I'm, I'm-
Anybody
... I'm answering you
... cutting you off.
I'm answering your co-
You're cutting... No, you're not. You're not answering us.
Sure I am.
You're raising other issues.
I'm giving you the quote.
No, no, you're not.
No, the quotation.
You don't do it very much. You don't do it very much.
God say, God say to the Jews... You ask me-
You skirt the issues and then go off on tangents-
You a-
... like it's going out of style
... you, you ask me the source, no?
And then you just keep on talking.
Let's hear about Black Israelites being, having swag Do you ask me the source- He
asked you about black Israelis having swag.
About the chosen people Do they have swag? Do they have swag? I asked you that.
The, you know- All right ... the Black Israelites- All right.
It's- Do they have swag? It's, uh, it's like me claiming I'm Elon Musk.
Yeah, you are pretty close to being Rachel's
gray. You wanna take me serious?
Be a serious- Toe the line Jews are not superior to Gentiles.
I am the last person- Gentiles are not superior to Jews ...
if you listen to my lecture, you know- We all are valuable- There's no- We're
created in the image of God ... I'm the complete-
Are Jews superior to blacks?
Complete opposite of racist. Anti-Semitism is a sin. Complete.
Uh- Or anti-Gentile is a sin also. I, I, I'm not anti-Gentile.
Anti-Semitism is a sin. I d- I never, you never- Anti-Palestinianism is a sin.
You never heard... Yeah, uh- Anti-Semitism is a sin.
But, but when did you hear me that I said that I'm anti-Gentile?
I don't even know what's being talked about right here. Where?
I don't understand.
What is this speech for? All human beings have full value
and dignity.
Did you hear me that I say that I'm anti-Gentile?
I don't even know what anybody's talking about.
Human beings- You didn't say anti-Gentile, but you believe that the Jewish faith is
a superior faith. I, I told you what's written in your book.
What are you getting upset? And you're... No, no, no. With how, what do you think?
Your misinterpretation is false. Who's superior? Oh, yeah, the,
the black people.
JC called the woman a dog. I change my mind. I change my mind.
Nobody is superior.
That's my fault, right? Nobody is superior.
Now you're blaming me for JC calling you a dog. That's it. You're blaming me.
Who's superior? The blacks are the real Jews.
We're all created in the image of God. The blacks are the real Jews.
Am I Elon Musk? The blacks are the Jew- No.
You're not Elon Musk- That's for sure ... but the blacks are the Jews.
At least that we could say for sure.
The same answer to this is according to a Black Israelite.
No, the blacks, the blacks are the real Jews. That's the answer.
Ab- absolutely not. Absolutely. Absolutely. You're a rascal.
You're a big rascal.
Absolutely. You're a turkey. And I have evidence of it. Absolutely.
I have evidence. So it's written in the Torah-
I have evidence that the blacks are
the real Jews ... it's in a written- It's what Captain Tzadik told me ...
it's written in the Torah that the Christian teach for 2,000 years
in
every one of their churches, but they refuse to admit for some reason.
The blacks?
That the Jewish people are the children of God.
They are the chosen people. God chose them and made an eternal
covenant with
them. He gave them the Holy Land. He gave them the Torah.
And even our leader is a Jew. So now you're asking me are
the Jews superior? Depend. If they are righteous Jews-
... they are superior. If they are wicked Jew, they are inferior.
That's true.
And who defines who's righteous and who's wicked? Yeah,
that's a tough one. God.
The Torah. The Torah. Oh, okay. Fine. Yeah.
So the Torah says you're a righteous Jew. You understand?
There's a lot of gray areas. So, so a righteous Gentile- Come on,
wake up ...
a righteous Gentile- ... is better than a wicked Jew. Wake up.
That's for sure.
Wake up. Every- Spill the coffee. All right.
The Torah doesn't say- Listen, listen ... the Arabs are a good people.
The rabbi better get paid. I just gave you the quote.
Obama's a bad man.
I just gave you the quote. It doesn't say that. Oh, yeah? Yeah.
So who- You're making some incredible judgments
...
so, uh, so tell me, so, so, so the, so the, the books of God is not
relevant. Nobody can judge- Very relevant what God's word is ...
nobody can decide who's righteous- It's very relevant ...
all right, all right, all right. Let's, all right.
Let's- You have to be careful the way you
interpret the word of God.
All right, let's- Uh, okay, let's go to the next point. Listen,
listen ...
I don't even know- Listen ... Listen ...
they don't believe, not only they don't believe in the Torah,
they don't, they
don't believe in the New Testament. These are hedonists.
Everything written in their book, which I say today- They
are followers of Jesus
Christ ... they deny. Is that your son?
Everything I say they deny, and they wanna teach about Christianity.
Is that your son? Unbelievable teachings. Is that your friend?
They don't believe one word of what's written.
Dan, we're- by the way, what's the time limit here?
I'm surprised you didn't sacrifice him to Baal.
Well, you, how much longer you guys wanna go for?
As little as possible. Okay.
And what about you? You wanna go for longer?
Uh, you know, I think- We should make a final point.
I think we should conclude.
Final point. Final point.
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