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是关于许多人都不愿谈论的事情
与非人类智能的接触
以及一个本不该存在的东西，人类的 灵魂。
我说的对吗？
是的，没错。
我认为这种经历，
整个接触经历主要与灵魂有关。
我认为这更多是关于灵魂，而非肉体 。
而我们面临的问题是，我们中的大多 数人
并不相信我们拥有灵魂。
而那些相信的人，也无法感觉到它。
我们根本无法直接感知到它。
所以我们对此有些一无所知。
我们相当无助。
而这不是一个好的状态
因为这关系到死后的世界
以及灵魂的命运。
而且这也许是某种永久性的。
这是至关重要的。
而我们真的很无助
因为我们要么不相信它，
我们感受不到，也无法理解。
然而他们却能，他们确实能。
我们来谈谈这个吧
因为这一直是一个贯穿始终的主题
从你书中的《交流》开始，
这种认为那些存在— —不管他们是什么——
最感兴趣的，是人类的灵魂。
第一次经历是怎样的？
如果可以的话，请告诉我们那个时刻 ，
你所经历的本体论冲击，
当你意识到他们真正感兴趣的是什 么时。
嗯，我经历了一个非常……
发生在我身上的事情，其顺序是这样 的。
我经历了一次非同寻常的第三类接 触
在1985年，1985年的12月。
我花了一些时间才意识到那是真实 的，
但我身体的某些部位受了相当严重 的伤。
于是这些伤让我去看了医生，
我才意识到我身上发生了一些事情。
有人袭击了我。
但那时，我仍然没有想到
这会和外星人有关。
我想起了这些画面。
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Original transcript (English)
is about something that a lot of people don't talk about with non-human intelligences and something that's not meant to exist, a human soul. Am I right? Well, that's right.
I think that the experience, the whole contact experience is primarily about the soul. I think it's much more that than about the body. And the problem we have is most of us don't believe we have a soul.
And those of us who do believe can't feel it. We can't have a direct sensation of it at all. So we're kind of in the dark about this. We're rather helpless. And that's not a good way to be
because this has to do with the afterlife and the fate of the soul. And maybe that's kind of permanent. This is of central importance. And we're really helpless
because either we don't believe in it, we can't feel it, we don't understand it. And yet they do, they do. Let's talk about that because it's been a theme all the way through
from communion in your books, this idea that the beings, whatever they are, are interested in most of all, are human souls. What's the first experience? Give us the moment, if you like,
of ontological shock that you had when you realized what they were actually interested in. Well, I had a really, what happened to me was the sequence is this. I had this phenomenal close encounter experience
in 1985, in December of 1985. It took me a while to realize that it was real, but I was injured quite severely in some areas. And so the injuries took me to the doctor and I realized that something had happened to me.
Somebody had assaulted me. But at that point, I still hadn't occurred to me that had anything to do with aliens. I remembered these images.
