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Prox is you're going to extremes your argument starts from extremes that if we give them any compute at all in this

Narrow moment, we will lose everything. No, I think what my argument those extremes

They're childish any marginal compute is helpful, right?

So if you have more compute you can train a better model if the AI models that run on those chefs

Yeah are capable of cyber offensive capabilities or training models are capable of cyber defense is running more models of those instance

It is not a nuclear weapon, but it is it enables a weapon of a kind

Is that something where we want to minimize China's ability to get there first?

We want to be ahead. We can control that

How do we control that if the chips are already there and they're using that to train that model?

We have tons of compute. We have tons of AI researchers

We're racing as fast as we can again

We have more nuclear weapons than anybody else, but we don't want to send enriching uranium anywhere. We're not enriched new uranium

It's a chip and it's a chip that they can make themselves

But there's a reason they're buying it from you, right?

And then we have quotes from the founders of Chinese companies that say that we're bottlenecking because our chips are better

On balance our chips are better. There's just no question about it in the absence of our chip in the absence of our chip

Can you acknowledge that while we had a record year?

Can you acknowledge that a whole bunch of chip companies have gone public?

We used to have a very large share in that market to leave that market concede that market for United States

Technology industry is a disservice to our country. It makes no sense to me

I guess I'm confused of it feels like you're making two different statements

One is that we're gonna win this competition with Huawei because our chips are going to be way better if we're allowed to compete and another

Is that they would be doing the same exact thing without us anyways, right? How can those two things be the stage for the same time?

It's obviously true in the absence of a better choice. You'll take the only choice you have

How is that illogical but so logical reason they want Nvidia chips is they're better. Yeah, there is more compute more compute

No, it's just better. It's better because it's easier to program. It's we have a better ecosystem

Whatever the better is and of course, we're gonna send them compute. So what?

So what the fact of the matter is that you would get the benefit don't forget we get the benefit of American technology leadership

We get the benefit of developers working on the American tech stack

We get the benefit as those AI models diffuse out into the rest of the world

The American tech stack is therefore the best for it. We can continue to advance and diffuse American technology that I believe is a

Positive it's a very important part of American technology leadership