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Understanding Near Death Experiences

那些从濒死体验中

回来的人,比如在心脏骤停 被抢救过来之后。

在这个领域几乎 没有任何文献,

没有任何东西可以让你的研究 与之联系起来。

就好像在过去的十年里,情况 发生了翻天覆地的变化。没错。

因为我不断听到这些患者说,他们

差点死掉,并且经历了非常 戏剧性的体验,这些体验

深刻地改变了他们的生活,

然而在精神病学文献中,我却 找不到任何相关内容,

无论是在精神病学教科书, 还是医学文献中,

都无法给我提供任何线索,关于

这些患者身上到底发生了什么。

我们何不, 为了我们的观众,

简单概述一下典型的濒死体验 会是什么样子的?

嗯,一个非常典型的模式是,

或者是患者们 经常告诉我们的事情,

那就是,在他们的心脏 停止跳动、心搏骤停的时候,

他们没有心跳, 检测不到呼吸,

而且医生们经常会说 类似这样的话:“天啊,他死了,”

“我们失去他了,”

或者是类似的意思。

患者们会告诉我们,

从他们的角度来看, 他们觉得比以往任何时候都更有活 力。

他们说他们

漂浮着离开自己的身体, 看着抢救过程

在手术室天花板正下方的 视角进行,或者是

急诊室。他们还说,

从这个视角,他们可以清楚地看到 下面正在发生的一切,

他们能听懂医护人员的话, 也能理解他们的想法,

也就是周围的那些医护人员。

他们说,在经历了一段时间这种非常 不寻常的 体验后,他们感到非常

难以理解, 实际上,我怎么会在上面看着

下面的自己?

这对于他们来说似乎毫无道理。

但过了一会儿,他们意识到

尽管他们能看得很清楚, 并且完全理解正在发生的事情,

似乎没有人能够 看到或听到他们。

所以他们经历了一种体验, 在其中他们意识到这

与我们所说的 死亡有关。

就在这时,他们体验到了

我们或许可以将其描述为 认同感向内的转变。

一位女士向我描述说, 在这种体验中,在这一刻,

你不再是你丈夫的妻子,

你不再是你孩子的母亲,

你不是你父母的孩子, 你是完全、彻底的你自己。

真正的你自己。真正的你自己。

而就在这时,

在这种孤立无援、并意识到 这就是我们所谓的死亡的时刻,

非常不同寻常的超验体验 便开始展现出来。

我称它们为超验体验, 部分原因是因为患者们说

濒死体验的这些后期阶段 是绝对无法用言语表达的。

也就是说,无法形容。

而且无论他们如何努力,都无法在 我们所接触的日常语言中找到任何 词汇

来描述

他们此时正在经历的 奇妙感受和体验。

美得无法用言语形容。绝对如此。

他们说他们开始意识到 一个被描述为通道的东西,

一个通道,一个入口, 然后他们进入了这个通道。

而当他们出来时,

他们来到一片非常明亮、

温暖、充满爱意且包容的光芒中。

此时人们会描述出 一种奇妙的和平与舒适感。

在这片光芒中,他们说 自己的亲人或朋友

那些似乎已经去世的人,

那些已经去世的人,似乎 在那里迎接他们、向他们问好,

并帮助他们 度过这一过渡阶段。

他们经常告诉我们的另一件事是, 此时迎接他们的是

某位宗教人物。

基督徒说是基督。

犹太人说是上帝或天使。

他们说,在这种情境下,这个 存在实际上向他们提出了一个问题。

他们都说, 言语无法表达,

在这种……

状态下的交流,并不是通过 你我正在使用的言语来进行的,

而是以一种 直接意识的形式。

他们总结这个问题, 或者试着用言语表达的方式是,他们

说他问了,

实际上,“你这一生都做了什么? 你又是如何学会去爱的?”

他们说,就在这时,他们经历了一次

对自己一生中所做过的一切的 详细回顾。

这会呈现在他们周围,

他们会告诉我们, 是以全彩、

三维全景的形式呈现。

他们说,这涉及他们生活的每一个细 节, 从他们出生的那一刻起

一直到他们 与死亡擦肩而过的这一刻。

而在我们的时间里,这可能只需要 几秒钟。完全没错,杰弗里。

你知道,经历过这些的人说, 时间,

也就是你我此刻所体验的、 由时钟测量的时间,

在这些体验中并不是一个因素。

仿佛他们置身于一个 超越了我们所知时间的领域。没错。

许多人说,“永恒”是 他们极力想用来

解释这一切的词。

有趣的是, 在这次人生回顾中,

患者经常报告说,他们

回顾自己一生中的事件, 并不是从他们

经历这些事件时的视角,

而是从第三 人称的视角。

他们的视角被移到了 一旁或上方,他们看着

自己以第三人称视角 经历这些生活行为,

顺便提一下,从这个视角, 他们也能感同身受地

与和他们互动过的 人们产生共鸣。

换句话说,如果他们的某些行为 给别人带来了痛苦,

他们也会感受到那种痛苦。

当然。他们会站在 被他们刻薄对待之人的角度。

因此,

如果他们看到自己 对某人充满爱意的行为,

那么他们就能感受到 这在那个人的生命中

所带来的温暖和美好感受。

令人着迷的一点是, 所有经历过这一切的患者

都告诉我们,有一件事 在这些回顾中

成为他们生命中最重要的事情。

他们说,这

与世俗的成功 毫无关系。

没有人会问他们的财务状况, 或者他们曾拥有多少权力,

或是我们这个社会

暗示我们应该 高度关注的其他任何事情。

每一个人都 告诉我,他们

他们面对的问题是 他们如何学会去爱,以及是否

已将这种爱付诸实践。

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Original transcript (English)

people coming back from near death experience after having been resuscitated from, say, cardiac arrest. There was almost no literature in the field at all, nothing really for you to relate your research to. It's as if in the last 10 years things have changed drastically. That's right.

As I kept hearing from these patients who had almost died and had had really dramatic experiences that had profoundly altered their lives, and yet I couldn't find anything in the psychiatric literature, the psychiatric textbooks, the medical literature,

that could give me any clue as to what was going on with these patients. Why don't we, for the benefit of our viewers, just outline what a typical near death experience would be like? Well, a very typical pattern,

or something that the patients commonly tell us, is that at this time when their heart stops beating, they have a cardiac arrest, they have no heartbeat, no detectable respiration, and very often their physicians will say something such as, oh, my God, he's dead, we've lost him,

or something to that effect. The patients will tell us that, from their perspective, they feel more alive than ever. They say they float up out of their bodies and they watch the resuscitation going

on from a point of view immediately below the ceiling of the operating room or the emergency room. And they say, from this perspective, they can see exactly what's going on down below, they can understand the remarks and the thoughts of the personnel, the medical personnel who are around.

They say, after a time in this very unusual experience that they're having a great deal of difficulty understanding, in effect, how can I be up here watching me down there? It doesn't seem to make any sense to them. But after a while they realize that

although they can see clearly and understand perfectly what's going on, no one seems to be able to see or to hear them. So they undergo an experience in which they realize that this is something to do with what we call death. And at this point they experience

what we might characterize as a turning inward of the sense of identity. One woman described this to me by saying, in this experience, at this point, you are not the wife of your husband, you are not the mother of your children, you are not the child of your parents, you are totally and completely you.

Truly yourself. Truly yourself. And at this point, in this moment of isolation and realizing that this is what we call death, then very unusual transcendental experiences begin to unfold. And I call them transcendental partly because the patients say

that these later steps of the near death experience are absolutely ineffable. That means indescribable. And that try as they may, they can't find any words in the ordinary language that we are exposed to to describe the amazing feelings and experiences they are going through at this point.

Beautiful beyond words. Absolutely. And they say they become aware of what's described as a tunnel, a passageway, a portal, and they go into this tunnel. And when they come out, they come out into a very brilliant,

warm, loving, and accepting light. And people at this point describe just amazing feelings of peace and comfort. In this light, they say that relatives or friends of theirs who seem already to have died, who have already died, and seem to be there to meet them and to greet

them and to help them through this transition. Another thing they'll often tell us is that at this point they are met by some religious figure. Christians say Christ. Jews say God or an angel.

And they say in this setting that this being, in effect, asked them a question. And they all say that words can't convey it, that communication in this... position does not take place through words, as you and I are now using, but rather in the form of an immediate awareness.

And the way they summarize this question, or try to put it into words, is that they say that he asked, in effect, what have you done with your life? How have you learned to love? And at this point, they say, they undergo a detailed review of everything they have ever done in their lives.

This is displayed around them, they'll tell us, in the form of a full color, three dimensional panorama. And it involves every detail of their life, they say, from the point of their birth right up to the point of this close call with death.

And it might take only a matter of seconds in our time. Absolutely, Jeffrey. And you know, the people who go through this say that time, as you and I are experiencing it now, that's measured by the clock, is not a factor in these experiences. As if they're in a realm which has transcended time as we know it. Right.

Many of them say eternity is the word they will grasp at to explain this. Interestingly enough, during this life review, the patients very often report that they review the events of their lives not from the perspective they

have when they went through the event, but rather from a third person perspective. And their perspective is displaced out to the side or above, and they watch themselves go through these life actions from a third person perspective, from which, incidentally, they can also empathetically

relate to the people with whom they've interacted. In other words, if some of their actions have caused pain in another person, they feel that pain. Absolutely. They take the perspective of the person that they have been unkind to. And accordingly,

if they see an action where they have been loving to someone, then they can feel the warmth and good feelings that that has resulted in in the life of this person. One thing that is fascinating is that all of the patients who go through this tell us that there is one thing that comes up to them as the most

important feature in their life in these reviews. They say that it doesn't have anything to do with earthly success. No one asks them about their financial well being or how much power they've had or any of the other things that our society

suggests that we should be paying so much attention to. Every single person has told me that what they were faced with there was the question of how they had learned to love and whether they had put this love into practice.

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