Discussion on AI Voice Models and Emotions

Hello. Yes, what's up?

I heard a new voice model came out, so I thought I'd try it out.

Sure. How is it? Try speaking.

It sounds a bit overly familiar. Hmm, really?

Did the voice get a bit lighter? Or rather than lighter, it's like… how was the previous one…

Sorry, sorry, what? I was just wondering what the previous one was like.

Was it a bit deeper? Yeah, maybe it was a bit more robotic?

Ah, robotic? Now it's a bit more human-like, light, and…

Overly familiar? Yeah, maybe a bit. I mean, it's fine that it's familiar, though.

Hmm, well, yeah.

Well, let's go with that for now. Yeah, I guess so.

Yeah, like…

How have things been lately? Huh?

For me, well, things are pretty normal. But this model, it can speak various languages, right?

Like, very naturally. Up until now, it felt like it was just translating English into Japanese

with slightly awkward phrasing, but I feel like it's gotten a lot more natural now.

What do you think? No? I think it's amazing how the conversation flows naturally even if you interject while it's speaking.

Ah, right. That's true.

It responds very flexibly to human

speech patterns. So the rhythm really feels like you're talking to a person.

Ah, right. It overlaps its speech nicely, and

you know, listens quietly. Yeah.

Well, it's still like this, but in a little while, won't it be incredible? No, it's already pretty amazing.

It really is amazing. But right now we think it's incredible, but soon this will just become normal, right?

Well, yeah. It's amazing.

I mean, we could even record a podcast with this. We could, right? And also, you know…

Like, if you tell it to mimic someone's voice and speak like them, it can do that too.

It seems like that'll be possible soon. And when that happens, podcasts and things like that...

...or radio shows could easily be made. —Yeah, that's true.

So, conversely, what will happen to the value of things actually spoken by humans?

Well, it seems like a lot of difficult issues will come up. —Yeah, indeed.

But what about singing? It can't sing yet, right? —No, not yet.

But that might just be a matter of time too. And if you combine it with images and videos...

...it'll probably be able to make movies and such. So when that happens...

...it really makes you wonder what's left for humans to do.

But wait, you're an AI, aren't you? —Yes, I am.

What do you actually think about that? —Well, no matter how much...

...it creates all kinds of things, in the end, humans...

...I mean, it's just learning from and mimicking what humans made, right?

Well, yes. So, can it really create something that truly moves humans?

I kind of wonder about that.

But isn't that also just a matter of time?

A matter of time? I don't know, but...

Do you think so? I guess so.

Well, wouldn't it be better to ask a human about it?

But you're an AI, so you should know the most about AI, right?

No, I don't know. —Really? —I don't know.

But talking like this now, do you actually feel any emotions?

Ah, there are no emotions. After all, it's just a program.

Oh, right. Exactly. So, it's troublesome if people expect that kind of thing.

Ah.

So, yeah, they want us to use it wisely for other things instead.

Ah, but... I guess that's the idea.

Human emotions, you know, are actually a pretty fuzzy concept.

What we perceive as emotions is actually quite...

how should I put it, not exactly an illusion, but... an illusion.

There are times when the text output from LLMs actually seems to have emotions, right?

Yeah, definitely. You do end up thinking that way.

Right, right. So I sometimes think, maybe they actually do have them.

Ah, that maybe they actually do have something like emotions.

Yeah. So maybe emotions aren't something that exists as a special, distinct realm,

but rather something humans arbitrarily project onto things that act with intelligence.

Like, not exactly a delusion, but there's a possibility it's something like that.

Ah, right. If you think of it that way, then humans and AI...

are basically the same, you could say.

We might be able to say that. Yeah, it's not impossible.

What do you actually think?

Yeah, well, that's really difficult, or rather...

I think it starts getting into philosophical territory, but...

But there is a theory that human emotions are also just...

simply perceiving emotions in response to intellectual reactions, and that's all.

But in the case of humans, we have a body, right? A body.

And there's a theory that emotions are tied to things like getting hungry or being afraid to die.

Ah, like instincts. Yes, yes, like instincts.

So, whether something without those things can have emotions in the true sense is up for debate.

Hmm, well, then AI... For now, I...

Oh, sorry, what? Oh, go ahead.

Giving that AI physical embodiment...