Discussion on Somalia's Political Issues

The country is cursed, worse than the darkest abyss. You know,

In the past, he just bragged that Somalia, and this and that,

this guy, he's totally lost.

That's true.

Now it's completely lost like Somalia. I mean, now,

I mean,

what did you make them say, Engineer? You know, it's normal for people to sell

their honor. It's normal.

So this is a normal thing. Yes. And people don't care about

the citizen, nor hunger, nor illness,

nor education, nor healthcare. They only care about

alcohol, cars, and... and women driving

cars. Right. And each one goes around

with a convoy, right, of six or eight cars

in a poor country, at the expense of the citizen,

the poor, lost, hungry, helpless citizen.

Nobody cares. I mean, nobody. If you

come to be president, come say, "I don't want a salary.

I don't want a salary. I don't want a government house. I don't want

a car." If you come to be a minister, the best thing is you drive

an old car. And when you...

drive, all your bodyguards drive terribly.

But showing off in announcements and all that, no...

It's all about protocol. The people from the Arab Summit asked me

to address them. I told them, "You are a failed Arab summit yourselves."

The Arab Summit itself must move from being a summit of

protocol to a summit of projects.

Right.

It's all memorized talk. What summit?

An Arab League that has no role. You just sit, give speeches,

and leave. It's the same thing. The whole world now, I mean,

the issue of— I mean, we need, we need

a change in the mindset itself and the structure.

There is no other solution, Engineer. People have no patience.

People are starving. You know what they're starving

for? For aid. And it ran out,

and they stole five to 20% of it.

And I told them. And by the way,

the, the, the, the bribes, I told them, don't

get past them. I envied them. Foreigners.

Foreigners who brought aid and paid money to pass.

They didn't come to us. What can we do?

They told them, "If you don't pay, you won't pass." Even if Kamil El-Idriss had come,

even if Kamil El-Idriss's father had come, from what we saw last time.

Muqawen Adly Aziz. The prince. The prince.

The prince. The prince. Prince Barkai Nasser.

He told me, "Brother, what is this?" I said, "Your Highness...

...the worst thing is to lose the proxy. Don't ask 'what is this?' This is reality."

I told him, "What do you mean, they pay?" And what...

..."they pay and I'll settle with them?" I asked him, "Pay what?

Pay a bribe?" He said—I told him, "Yes, let them pay a bribe...

...so that people don't die.

To help those poor people. Man, should they pay?" He said yes, I said,

"Let them pay, and I'll settle with them." Meaning, they'd refuse to take the money.

I'll settle with them when they come. The Prince's people, between him and me.

Officials would put a stop to it. They said, "No, he wants bribes."

I told them, "Pay bribes to help the poor." They'd settle it.

I told him, "Your Highness, I'll pay." Besides, this country has morals,

values. There are none,

none. It's hair-raising, hair-raising.