Discussion on Women's Rights and Social Issues

I said something different, and perhaps now you'll hear my intervention when I speak.

Okay. Fine. Go ahead. First of all, I'll—I’ll begin, perhaps I'll begin.

Peace, mercy, and blessings of God be upon you. Perhaps I'll start where Brother Malik left off, on

their hypocrisy

and lies in their spaces, or when they come to confront someone

and debate them. To begin with, uh, they—they speak or

talk in the name of women's rights, and that they are, uh, I mean,

defenders of women, yet they have harmed women more than anyone in

these spaces.

They have harmed women the most, whether in their honor or through

blackmail, threats, every—every worst kind of thing we've heard from them.

Okay? That's one. Now, regardless of whether we agree with Noah or

disagree with him, that's not

our subject. The second thing is, when I said what I said, what I said,

Noah,

when they asked me about you in the space, I said,

“Noah has a message, and they have the right to demand his identity.”

Okay? But when the space ended,

we heard their hypocrisy and lies when they defended

Miqlas

on what grounds? That Noah incites— incites young men, I don't know…

What does that kind of talk have to do with jihad, when these things haven't been heard, for the record?

Honestly. But I always say, since he's a preacher

and guides people,

it's normal for him to show his personality and identity, particularly since he's a man.

So when I saw them defending Moqlas,

defending his interference in Saudi affairs, defending the fact that he

i-i-incites Saudi families, uh, gathers

teenage girls, despite hearing that Moqlas, uh, c— I mean, influenced many girls,

and that many girls ran away from Saudi Arabia.

But again, I don't know about these things, I don't like it.

I'm repeating what was said, I neither confirm nor deny,

but this is what has been said about him. Regardless of whether this is what he did or did not

do,

his interfering in Saudi society in the first place and inciting girls against

their parents and families—first of all, as a Saudi man, where is

your honor and chivalry when you see these...

types coming in, and then when you come to confront me,

You ask why Noah, why whatever? Okay, and you're a question mark.

When you see a man barging in among women, what do we call

that?

Third, the discussion we heard just now was a fruitful—

Sorry, a Byzantine debate. We didn't hear any information, they wouldn't let him.

They ask the question, then answer with the answer Noah was

expected to give, and respond to it at the same time.

For example, uh, when Noah spoke, his words were clear.

He said, "We shouldn't insult a woman who doesn't wear a niqab, and

it's fine, it's up to her. It's a personal freedom, as long as it's the law."

But if we're looking for the religious ruling, some

schools of thought—or rather, the Hanbali school in Saudi Arabia

and all the schol— I mean, they all—

ruled that the niqab is obligatory." They told him, "Go to ChatGPT."

The one who went to ChatGPT. So how can someone se-seeking the truth go

to ChatGPT? Who should someone seeking the truth turn to?

She should turn to the sch-sch-scholars if she's seeking the truth.

But if she wants to seek a fatwa, as Nooh said, and then repeated to them,

he said if she wants a fatwa from another scholar, there's nothing wrong with that,

because she got the fatwa from a scholar who permitted it.

I mean, we all heard what was said, but glory be to God,

and by God, this isn't a defense of Nooh. I repeat, there are many things

I disagree with Nooh about, but your double standards and lies

must be exposed—the person must be exposed.

Today, one of them says, "I'm not g-going to mention names," one of them says

they insulted women, attack them, and try to restrict women's freedom,

to the point that when we used to gather in Spaces,

if a woman sang, they'd come attack us and attack the woman.

Okay, shall I tell you something? When there was a woman singing in

their Spaces, they were the ones who attacked her. They called her the Spaces party singer,

and everyone knows which girl it was. I won't mention names or say who,

but I'm showing you their double standards and lies, because they defend

women's rights, yet they can't stand— Today, I see my intervention with Nooh,

I assure you, I’ll attack over it, and they’ll t-touch my honor, touch it.

I went to Nuh and said these things.

Um, one of them also t-t-talks about marriage, the system

of religious marriage, which he calls enslavement of women.

Can you imagine he calls marriage enslavement of women? I

pay money to buy this woman from her family’s home.

What else did he say? He explains it’s because of high dowries.

What high dowries when you’re com—when you’re commodifying women?

When you say religious law made the dowry lawful for a woman, honored her and empowered her,

she is taken from her family’s home to her husband’s, he says, no, this, this

is a s-system, and that’s why I won’t get married, I’m content without marriage

with my girlfriends. Guys, what kind of, what kind of, what kind of people are these that I get

discourse from—

Sara, then— Guys, just a second, it’s my turn.

I just want to address the girls. If you’re afraid of the— of the one with

extremist rhetoric, be a thousand times more afraid of the one with soft

rhetoric, because he’s a liar, he’s two-faced, he’s

a hypocrite, and everywhere you’ll find him talking, and he’s the one who commodifies you

Before anyone else. They say, “You, when you st-speak, that’s his point of view.”

in it.

You see, he commodifies you. He says you’re a private part that must not be seen in public.

Okay, he’s conveying a religious viewpoint, an idea, but you

are the one who commodified women, and you’re the one who insulted them in the Spaces when you came to speak

about her honor and talk withou— with utter brazenness and insolence.

The first thing you attack is women’s morals, the first thing you attack.

How can you c-how can you call women to freedom after

women are liberated according to your perspec— m-m-m, I mean,

your methodology and ethics, then you come and say,

“You’re the one with issues, you’re the one with issues, you’re the one with issues,” while attacking her honor.

What hypocrisy, what discourse from you can be believed? I mean,

Honestly, we’re sick of your discourse. Stop lying and leave women alone.

Women are capable of defending themselves, capable of speaking for themselves. They don’t need

you to take center stage, speak for them, and defend them as activis—

a-a-activists for rights, when it’s all nothing but lies.

When you come to support Miqlaas and write, at least, “Miqlaas,”

At least Miqlas. Miqlas, wh-who, what business does he have

talking about Saudi society? But I don't have double standards,

when you mentioned Noah, I told you, since it hasn't been proven that he's Saudi, we should demand that Noah

th-that he… But when I saw your double standards now, by God, it's not up to

Noah to

reveal his identity. Aren't you all veiled? Aren't you all people we don't know where

you're from?

I mean, are we supposed to tell the truth or lie? Show us your identities.

Who are you, you whose name I won't say? Who are you, coming into Spaces, you

cultured one? Tell us your name, state it openly.

And you, Qut al-Ghaziyat, tell us your name. Tell us your names.

Why do you demand Noah say his name? In short, basically.

So don't believe their double standards and lies. And I say again, whether I disagree with

Noah or agree with him on some matters, in the end, his is religious discourse,

whereas all your discourse is lies and distortion, and there's nothing in it

that touches the truth. Besides, you have no morals, no principles,

liars, hypocrites. Thank you, Noah.

Sorry, Sarah. Perhaps I was mistaken in comparing you to someone

with the same username and profile photo. Amazingly, she was speaking,

but the brothers made it clear to me that this was

someone else, another account with the same name, making these insinuations about me. Perhaps

I wronged you. I hope you don't

take it to heart. But generally, your words are valid, thank you,

and