Transcript · Hindi → English
Discussion on Nationalism and Political Parties
How many of you feel that you need a Kokrajar Janata Party?
How many of you say no?
Sir, we need a new party.
You need a new party in this country.
Yes, sir, meaning, one that is a nationalist party and talks about agendas
and issues. But if you are talking about
the Kokrajar Janata Party, sir, we are from Jammu and Kashmir. From that stage,
slogans are being raised that Kashmir was never an integral part of India.
So how will you justify this and say that you are right?
You come from Kashmir, you believe in a way
that you can't have a gathering where
there can be slogans in support of Omar Khalid. Am I clear?
You are saying that you cannot have slogans in support of Omar Khalid, even
though
he has not been convicted. I mean, there has been no conviction, but you
are saying they
cannot have slogans in his favor. Correct.
Sir, the main thing here is this, right? If you say is Jammu and Kashmir a part of India or
not? It is, right? If this is being said from somewhere,
that Jammu and Kashmir is not a part of India,
how can that be justified?
You said just now to me also earlier that we need a nationalist party. What does
“nationalist” mean?
What does it mean?
Someone who speaks for the country's interests, with nothing anti-national involved
in it.
In that sense, Hitler was also a nationalist.
Sorry.
In that sense, Hitler was also a nationalist.
Sir, he was, for some people, wasn't he?
So I am trying to understand from you. What does nationalism mean?
You know, when you say patriotism, nationalism, what does it mean?
What does patriotism mean? What does it mean for you?
Sir, patriotism means, sir, dedicating oneself
to the country.
How?
Sir, working for the country, working for the country's interests.
Are those who stole donations nationalists or not?
Are those who leaked the paper nationalists or not? I am asking you a straight
question. What is the definition of nationalism or
patriotism?
Sir, those who are working for the country, sir.
Now, for example, they committed some donation theft, those are their individual matters, aren't they,
sir.
Individually, those people are corrupt.
Are they patriots or not? Are corrupt people patriots or not?
No, sir, they would be patriots, wouldn't they, sir? I mean.
Okay. What is, what is—
End of transcript · 408 words · machine translated
Original transcript (Hindi)
How many of you feel that you need a Kokrajar Janata Party? How many of you say no. Sir, we need a new party. You need a new party in this country. Yes sir, मतलब जो कि nationalist party हो और agendas
की बात करें। But अगर आप Kokrajar जनता पार्टी की बात होगी जैसे sir हम जम्मू कश्मीर से हैं। वहां के stage से ये नारे लग रहे हैं कि कश्मीर was never been an integral part of India. तो ये चीज को कैसे justify करोगे कि आप सही हुए? You come from कश्मीर, you believe in a way
that you can't have a gathering where they can be slogans in support of Omar Khalid. Am I clear? You are saying that you cannot have slogans in support of Omar Khalid even though he has not been convicted. मतलब conviction तो नहीं हुआ but you
are saying they cannot have slogans in his favor. Correct. Sir main चीज तो ये है ना यहां पर अगर आप बताओ जम्मू and कश्मीर India का part है या नहीं? है ना। अगर किसी जगह से ये चीज कही जा रही है जम्मू and कश्मीर India का part
नहीं है तो वो चीज कैसे justified है? You said just now to me also earlier nationalist party चाहिए। Nationalist का मतलब क्या है? जो देश के हित के लिए बात करें, जिसमें कोई anti nationalist चीजें involve
ना हो। In that sense, Hitler was also a nationalist. Sorry. In that sense, Hitler was also a nationalist. Sir, किसी किसी के लिए तो था ना।
So I am trying to understand from you. What does nationalism mean? You know, when you say patriotism, nationalism, what does it mean? देशभक्ति का मतलब क्या है? What does it mean for you? Sir, देशभक्ति का मतलब होता है sir अपने आप को देश के प्रति समर्पित करना।
कैसे? Sir देश के लिए काम करना, देश के हित के लिए काम करना। जो चंदा चोरी की है वो nationalist है या नहीं? जिन्होंने paper leak की वो nationalist है कि नहीं। I am asking you straight question. What is the definition of nationalism of
देशभक्ति? Sir, जो देश के लिए काम कर रहे हैं sir. अब जैसे उन्होंने चंदा चोरी की कुछ की, वो तो sir उनकी individual चीजें हैं ना sir. Individually वो लोग corrupt है।
Are they देशभक्त or not? जो corrupt है वो देशभक्त है कि नहीं? नहीं sir देशभक्त तो वो होंगे ना sir मतलब। Okay. What is, what is-
