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So, Charlie Kirk is a figure of the American right.

He's younger and he goes to university and college campuses to debate.

But on top of that, he also says really hateful things.

He says things about black people, transgender people, and minorities.

So, he's really someone who has done a lot of harm to a lot of people,

but also, he's someone who had something horrible happen to him.

But that doesn't change who he is.

You received death threats, rape threats, and you reported them to the police.

How did the police react? What did they do?

Not much.

Why?

The first thing they told me was that there isn't much they can do.

I think there really aren't any laws for this kind of harassment.

Because it's just a lot, a lot, a lot of people,

from different accounts, American accounts, international accounts.

So, when I first said that I was receiving so many threats,

they told me it's the Internet, that there's not much we can do.

After I showed the website and all that, they said that maybe it's a bit more serious,

but nothing happened.

How do you live with those threats? Does it scare you?

Yes, it's been a few years.

Because as soon as I started reporting on the far right,

I've been receiving threats,

especially from the Diagolon group and other far-right groups in Canada.

They have been getting stronger and stronger since I started doing this.

So, I'm used to living with it.

And it's true that it's a different life.

I can't have too much alcohol with my friends on a night out.

because I'm afraid that if I drink too much,

will it be the night someone finds me?

I can't post any clue about where I live on social media.

Will the current situation change the way you do your work?

Before publishing, will you calculate the risks more carefully?

I think I should have done that a few years ago.

So, I have no reason to start that now.

Yes, but there is still a right wing in this country,

which is not a bad thing, by the way,

But the obtuse, identitarian radical right — that's dangerous.

The problem, it seems to me, is actually much more polarization.

It seems like no one talks to each other anymore.

Echo chambers — there's no way to…

On social media, first of all, people rarely talk about that,

but for a video to work, it has to be polarizing.

I mean, if it's not firmly planted in a very intense direction,

it will pass…

A video that's in the gray area, that explains that it's complicated,

It will never be popular.

Everything we see, it seems like we're forcing people,

Because of the algorithms, to be like that.

You have to learn clickbait — it's an art.

And you, do you raise it?

Yes, a little bit.