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by non-human intelligence that's not us

and there are

periods

in the evolutionary record

where the jump is too large

to seem natural

yeah

and so I really do believe we were engineered and the reason I say that is

you can't have all these intelligences come from all over the place like

multiple people on the inside say and all of them look like us without a

common origin right because evolution does not work like that right

okay so

I believe that

they are seeding

the universe with humanoid beings for whatever reason whoever is this

entity controlling all this and I don't know who it is

I'm just telling you what the logical inferences are and what the insiders are

saying

dad and I'm friends with Jason Sands and he's told me a lot of stuff that's gone

on the inside

which is stuff he's seen

being sent on missions

the job which was to kill aliens

do you believe that stuff?

I don't know I only know that I like Jason I trust him I'm his friend

I'm a confidant to him but I don't have enough evidence to say whether it's

true or not

I know that I feel it's probably true but that feeling is not real

it's what I believe

I don't believe he's lying to me

he is either deluded

or he's telling us a story that we all need to hear and I don't believe he's

deluded

I believe he's telling us the truth and

I had a very interesting experience with Jason at UFOCon in January of

twenty twenty five

we were sitting in the hallway

with uh... John

sorry John sorry I can't remember your last name because I'm a little nervous

anyway

uh... Ramirez John Ramirez Jason Sands and I were from the CIA

okay

he went all over telling all sorts of people stuff about the insiders and

etcetera so John Ramirez

Jason Sands and I were sitting in the hall just chit-chatting

uh... Jason's girlfriend was across the hall and

uh... a woman had gone outside that we knew

and opened the door to escort an elderly woman to her car

and

in the interim

she comes in through the side door which is locked

she had a door a chair propping the door open

and this

weird looking woman came walking through the door kicked the chair out tried to

close the door on her she reached and grabbed the door right before it closed and started

chasing the woman down the hall

and

uh... John and I are sitting here Jason and his girlfriend are sitting over here

and the woman

is chased by two other women down the hall she turns around and goes down the

corner and I'm looking like this

so one of them moves quickly

and so I can't quite see what has happened

then she moved back

then I'll tell you what happened

then another woman was there John Ramirez was to my right he had a clear view down

the hall

and I went

did that woman that just went down the hall just disappear into thin air

John said yes

because I saw it with my own two eyes

and it looked to me like the woman stopped and hesitated and looked at Jason

before she went down the hall being chased and then disappeared

right out of the hall with no place for her to be

I have no idea what that was

but I'm telling you

it gives me the willies

this field is full of weird

we don't know what it is we're grasping for explanations

we just don't know what stuff is but you know

I don't deny observational evidence

I may not interpret it

but I know observational evidence when I see it

until I have enough to turn it into something useful

I just say this is a wild story that I'm telling without any evidence to show you

but I know what I saw I know what John Ramirez saw

I know what Jason Sands felt

that thing was weird

and it just disappeared

it was dressed like a

South American witch

and just walked down the hall

I don't know what it was I'm just telling you what happened

where exactly was this?

in San Francisco at UFOCon 2025

bunch of UFO experiencer nuts get together and

compare notes and talk to each other

yeah I've heard a lot of crazy shit happen at UFO conferences

lots of spooky things like that

who was telling me something crazy

oh it was Michael Masters told me a crazy story about something that happened to him

at one of those things

oh Michael Masters and I we're good friends and

I think I exposed his being an experiencer inadvertently

so he was at a conference in New York City

that's all I'll say about the conference

because of the organizer who is now in deep trouble

so I don't want to advertise

uh oh was he in the Epstein files?

no

nope but anyway so

Michael was giving a talk

he's described some experiences he had

and I says

Michael are you an experiencer?

and he looked at me

and I could see the look in his eyes

that he did not expect that question

and he was almost not going to answer

and then he stopped and says

yes I am

and he started telling the story

and he broke down in tears

really?

yeah it was a major emotional moment

and I really was regretting I had done it

but anyway Michael is a good guy

I know him really well

I missed an opportunity to go and teach

a guest lecture at his UFO

because of timing and other things

but he is a really good guy

I really admire him

and his extra-tempestual view of the UFO folks

as being us from the future

based on his intimate knowledge

of how evolutionary biology works

I think it makes the most sense

it does make a lot of sense

I'm not saying it's right

I'm just saying I believe that his story holds water

but there are other beings though

that don't look humanoid too

you know like there's like a mantid beings

and stuff like that

most of them are humanoid

and in fact most of the abduction experiencers

explain them looking even more human

than the little gray things right?

like Travis Walton

it looks to me like

if I had to guess

it would be that the little gray things

are cybernetic organisms

robots with biology in them

and the other beings that are running them

they are part of whatever this huge program is

building humanoid entities

that's just what it feels like

right and it seems like you know

going back to what Michael Masters

was saying in the extra-tempestual model

I believe

is there seemed to be like an epoch

of time

during the 80s and 90s

maybe going back into the 70s

where there was like

all of these crazy abduction happening

and people explaining how

they're extracting semen or sperm

and like the eggs of the women

and it seemed to be tied to some sort of genetic thing

and Michael Masters

what his hypothesis says

is that this was some distant civilization

or like a distant version of us into the future

and some sort of a

apocalyptic event happened

that like bottlenecked the genome

they would they

and they had the ability to go back in time

they would go back

to where the genome was more diverse

take some specimen

come back and repopulate themselves in the future.

Yep so there's this kind of story

that's being shoved around

I think maybe by the insiders

to say that abductions have stopped

they have not stopped

that's what I've yeah

they're not

you just don't hear about them as much

you don't hear about them as much

but the abductions still happen

I have many friends who are regularly abducted.