Transcript · Arabic → English
Discussion on One-State Solution in Israel-Palestine
The two- state solution is over.
We must be internally convinced that Israel has destroyed the two- state solution.
Therefore, clinging to the two- state solution is clinging to an illusion.
And I am one of those who defended and invested individual efforts
over 30 years in the two- state solution, hoping.
We must not cling to this hope because it has become an illusion,
as Israel destroyed it. So, what is the other option? The other option, Israel makes
it easy for us. Smotrich makes it easy for us.
He says he will annex the Palestinian people and the West Bank,
and there is no such thing as the State of Palestine. We, I on a personal
level say: Yes, we agree to that, one state with equal rights. We spent 30 years
of our lives on the two- state solution, which was completely eliminated
geographically, politically, legally, and so on. The state solution,
the one- state solution leads us to…
This state, will it be an apartheid state like South Africa,
or a state where we have equal rights? The easiest conflict with Israel.
Israel will not agree to that, I realize that and I know this. But to keep
fighting for an illusion, or to start fighting for a reality with which I can
convince a part of Israeli society, and which the international community
cannot reject.
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Original transcript (Arabic)
حل الدولتين انتهى. يجب أن نقتنع داخلياً أن إسرائيل دمرت حل الدولتين وبالتالي تمسكنا بحل الدولتين هو تمسكنا بوهم. وأنا من الذين دافعوا واستثمروا جهود فردية على مدى 30 سنة في حل الدولتين على أمل. هذا الأمل يجب أن لا نتعلق به لأنه أصبح وهماً لأن إسرائيل دمرته.
سموتريتش يسهل علينا ذلك. ويقول أنه سيضم الشعب الفلسطيني ويضم الضفة الغربية وما فيش حاجة اسمها دولة فلسطين. هذه الدولة، هل ستكون دولة عنصرية كجنوب أفريقيا أم تكون دولة لنا حقوق متساوية فيها؟ إسرائيل لن توافق على ذلك، أنا أدرك ذلك وأنا أعرف هذا الكلام. لكن أن أستمر بالقتال على وهم