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I have a question: how many deaths are there in Gaza right now?

I can't tell you; in my opinion there are more than 50,000.

because those are the figures being reported to us right now.

We aren't getting any more figures.

because almost all the journalists have been killed there.

You have the former chief of Israel's general staff

who said there were more than 200,000 dead or wounded.

And just—if I could say something,

you're talking about diplomacy — I'll tell you,

when you have Mr. Netanyahu twice

flying over French airspace

while he is under an international arrest warrant.

Macron is complicit in this genocide.

When you have the Marseille dockworkers

who themselves have to stop ships

who carry parts for machine guns.

and that the Élysée has done nothing, it's the employees who must do it.

So yes, France is complicit in genocide.

But excuse me, you are not even capable

of giving us the figures for the number of deaths in Gaza.

Allow me to tell you that you have been very careless

regarding what may still happen there.

Speaking of carelessness, forgive me,

but I don't think La France Insoumise

has any lessons to give to the French government

given the state of your competence, including in economic matters.

Mr. Coquerel recently proved it again.

So please, let's not mix up all the issues.

There was this debate that was also started by Olivier Faure last night.

because he relayed those remarks by Pedro Sanchez

that we saw a few moments ago.

And he is calling on the mayors of France to fly the Palestinian flag

on September 22, the day of the recognition

of the Palestinian state by France.

Xavier Iacovelli, are you saying

"Yes, Olivier Faure is right?"

Once again, all of that is symbolic gestures.

That's not what will resolve the conflict in Gaza.

I'm not sure that putting a Palestinian flag

on the front of our town halls will change anything.

Is that demagoguery?

Yes, it's populism, it's demagoguery.

I'm not sure, again, that it will help move things forward.

And again, one can be in favor of the creation

of a Palestinian state.

without, however, putting the Palestinian flag everywhere.

We've seen a number of demonstrations today,

well, recently, sorry, on the Franco-French question

of the economy, on the issue of unemployment,

on the question of purchasing power, with Palestinian flags.

I'm not sure, once again, that this is the place

to display a Palestinian flag.

Yes, Baïa, I have a question.

You have many questions, Mr. Baïa.

I have a lot of questions because you're rather contradictory.

On Macron-aligned town halls, there were, for example,

Ukrainian flags.

Do you find that it's populist and demagogic

or are you focused on implementing measures?

Not at all.

I actually think that on the facades of town halls…

I shouldn't have put Ukrainian flags on the facades of town halls.

If you ask me a question, I try to answer you.

I think that on the pediments of French town halls,

the French and European flags are enough.

So, sorry for all the mayors in your party

whom you contradict.

But for me, you know, there's no need.

As for me, you're on the net.

Unlike you, I'm not indoctrinated by a supreme leader.

We have a certain ideological coherence.

Those symbols are symbols that allow us to put

international pressure, which will allow us to succeed

in ensuring that this horror stops.

But it's not, and you're right from that point of view,

it's not just about making symbols.

This is also about putting sanctions in place.

And I'd like to, since Spain was mentioned,

give you some examples.

Spain has imposed an arms embargo

on weapons sent to the Israeli government.

Spain has imposed economic sanctions.

Spain has imposed diplomatic sanctions.

The Israeli government only understands sanctions.

And I'd like to end with one thing.

We had footage of many European leaders

who were gathered around Donald Trump to discuss the Ukrainian issue.

Why at no time, not once,

did any European leader raise their hand and say

Mr. Donald Trump, you're the one sending the weapons that are killing in Gaza,

when are you going to stop?

Why didn't any leader raise their hand?

So you see, of course it's important to have these symbols

and we support these symbols.

But Israel understands only one thing,

sanctions, and they must be put in place.