Debate on India's Independence History

Twenty-six thousand sacrificed, and you say that they gave us freedom.

Without a weapon, without a shield. I'll smash your face. You

come to me

and sing.

No, no, sir, what right do you have? Those twenty-six thousand whose families,

whose homes are mourning there,

you can forget them? That we endured police batons and would become Prime Minister

and, as we say, become Home Minister. Oh,

Even my buffalo takes a beating, sir. In my village, people get beaten with batons. Now

what, are we going to seat every buffalo here then?

Make someone a Buffalo Demon?

Look, sir, this— this is the sad thing. He said, sir,

“Bakshi Sahib, why are you digging up old graves?”

Talk about today, will you? Where you are going

depends a lot on where you came from.

Where are you going? Where are we going?

It depends to a great extent. Where are we coming from, sir?

At what turning did we take this—this, this village road?

All right. And to do that, remembering our past is

necessary, because hidden in our past is a

very big deception. A

very big deception. We used to be told,

“Sir, you say Bose won us independence. What proof do you have?”

So,

there is an article by Ranjan Bora in the Historical Journal of

India, in which this is cited. Majumdar has a

book,

in which an interview is cited. The interview

cites

that Clement Attlee—Lord Clement

Attlee, Prime Minister of England, from August

1945 to 1950, during whose time this

transfer of power took place. I am not saying independence.

Have you got me? I am not calling it independence, sir. Before whom

this—

during whose time, during whose tenure, this transfer of power

took place,

he himself spoke to Justice P. B. Chakravarti. All right. And

he said what Subrahmanyam Swamy had just told you

You told us, sir, why did you leave India?

The 1942 Quit India Movement, the British “Quit India” movement,

had already failed. By ’45, you had won the World War already.

You were a real tough guy back then. So why, sir, did you disappear so quickly?

He said three words: Indian National Army, Subhas Chandra Bose.

Subhas Chandra Bose.

Three words.

But look at that shrewd legal mind, sir. He did not stop there.

Otherwise, sir, tell me this: what impact did Mahatma Gandhi’s

freedom, nonviolent freedom struggle have on your departure?

What was its impact?

He said, and I quote:

Attlee’s face twisted into a sarcastic smile

as he spat out the, spat out the words M I

N I M A L, minimal.

Who is saying this, sir?

The man who made this decision, who signed it.

If you can find a more credible witness than him, then tell me.

But we were told, sir, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Mr. Bakshi, if you are a historical scholar, how can you?

This is, this is, this is tertiary evidence.

Someone heard someone say something, they recorded it, they

wrote it in an article, and you were presenting it, brother. This

is not a primary source.

So, ladies and gentlemen, I want to say

that for the past few days, our INA Trust,

the Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose INA Trust and some of our associates, especially

Dr. Kalyan Kumar Dey.

One day, we will respectfully mention this man's name. He

went to the Transfer of Power Archives in London

and conducted research spanning several years. He brought it

back and made a small monograph, then brought it to me, poor man. He lives in America,

where he works, Dr. Kalyan Kumar Dey.

He said, “General

sir, please take a look at this.” Sir, I got goosebumps. They

completed the letters in their entirety, he did not

Sir, this document has reproduced the entire letter.

Sir. And based on these, I now want to publish my book.

Bose and Gandhi

Who made India free?

In no uncertain terms, sir. Let the matter be settled, let the verdict be given.

We enjoy debating scripture in this country. So, sir,

let's sit down once and settle the matter.