hebrew → English transcript

Because, after all, as you say, you said earlier that you don't…

that Hamas is the one who blew up the deal, and maybe actually Israel is the one that torpedoed it,

maybe Netanyahu is the one who torpedoed it, but you know, there is

some structural flaw in the argument that we shouldn't get rid of

along the way.

And this structural flaw means that both Traft and Whitkoff

still say that Hamas is the one who blew it up, and now

he wants to go for a phased deal, only because Israel is threatening to occupy Gaza.

Well, so Hamas, first of all, the one who even talked about a partial deal,

or a phased deal, the one who essentially froze it for the election campaign was Netanyahu.

Hamas said from the start, from day one, that it wants a comprehensive deal,

absolute, one that would include everyone, the release of all of them.

He says that even now.

Netanyahu, when he says a whole deal, a comprehensive deal, what is he actually saying?

He says, to Hamas, we're telling them: either you hand them over,

and give us the hostages and then we'll kill you, or we'll simply kill you.

He wants a deal that will give Hamas, and will give Israel everything it wants.

This, of course — Hamas is not precious — and that means the murder of the hostages,

and their killing while still in the fighting.

What the Americans say — with all due respect — in the end, facts matter.

Beyond that, it should be said that not all American representatives said this in the past,

later they said they had said it because of the elections,

and we need to deal with the matter itself.

No, I completely agree with you.

And the Chief of Staff also says there is a deal, completely.