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Es una guerra y están matando a miles. Israel y Estados Unidos están
Israel and the United States are carpet bombing Tehran.
And there's lots of death, schoolgirls being killed.
colegialas. Una masacre en marcha. Al mismo tiempo, la economía mundial
está a punto de entrar en una de las mayores crisis del período moderno,
in the modern period, driven by the complete collapse
el colapso total de los suministros de petróleo provenientes de esta región,
una consecuencia previsible de la agresión israelí- estadounidense.
This was a war of choice. Benjamin Netanyahu told us
in a tweet last week, this fulfills a dream of 40 years.
de 40 años. Esta no es una guerra causada solo por Israel. Esta es una
locura conjunta de Israel y Estados Unidos. Estados Unidos quiere
The US wants to rule the world and Israel wants to rule
its region, the Middle East, and they partner together.
So it's not really right to say that Israel determined this
determinó esto o que Estados Unidos determinou isto. Esto es una asociación.
Fue interesante que tuvieras a Tony Blinken hace un momento. Él fue socio en el
He partnered in the genocide in Gaza.
It was the same with his administration.
Una asociación entre Estados Unidos
It has created a disaster around the Middle East.
Un desastre absoluto desde Libia hasta Irán, con muchos países desolados
with many countries desolate and destroyed in between.
And it now will create a disaster for the whole world.
Sé que vas a tener al embajador Danny Danon después de mí. Él representa,
en mi opinión,
to the world and to humanity than any other government.
A él no le gusta que yo diga eso,
Together with his partner, the United States.
Ambos son naciones rebeldes dirigidas por megalómanos creando estragos en el mundo,
creating havoc for the world, completely unnecessarily.
Yo estaba diciendo que Israel se está suicidando porque está destruyendo
cualquier resto de simpatía o empatía en Estados Unidos y en todo el mundo.
Así que dije que ese suicidio era trágico. Tenemos encuestas, Pierce, que
We have polls, Pierce, that show that for decades,
US sympathy ran 60 to 70% for Israel,
para Israel, 15% para Palestina. Ahora son 41%
para Palestina, 36% para Israel. En otras palabras,
la opinión pública estadounidense está del lado de Palestina y eso va a crecer de
and that's going to grow dramatically.
What's going to happen, whether Mr. Danon or his colleagues like it or not,
es que el mundo va a entrar en una profunda crisis económica en las próximas
semanas y meses, y esta es la elección de Israel. Israel desencadenó esto junto con
Israel set this off together with the United States.
Estados Unidos. El mundo pagará un precio terrible por este delirio,
y la gente sabrá de dónde vino esto. Es muy, muy triste. Muy triste.-¿
It's very, very sad. Very sad. - Is there... - It's suicidal for Israel.
I'm not able to answer any definitive military judgment,
pero la gente que opina sobre esto en todo el mundo cree que no es así, que Irán se
ha mantenido unido y seguirá manteniéndose unido, que tiene vastos arsenales de
has vast arsenals of missiles and drones, and we'll see,
because this war is not ending in the next few days.
próximos días. Y los propios generales israelíes lo han dicho públicamente,
esto podría prolongarse hasta el otoño,
Así que ni siquiera los progenitores de esta guerra están afirmando que esto
are not claiming that this is about to be won.
I don't hear that from anybody. I don't see it in the markets either,
en el vertiginoso aumento de los precios del petróleo.
the energy producers, suppliers, and shippers.
y navieras. No lo veo en el cierre de la producción de gas en
Qatar y de petróleo en Irak,
Veo que se está gestando una calamidad y que va a correr mucha sangre.
Es una especie de asesinato masivo de civiles por parte de Israel y de
Estados Unidos. Esto es realmente impactante. Deberíamos tenerlo presente.
We should keep it in mind. This is not targeted bombing.
Esto es un bombardeo masivo sobre Teherán.
absolutamente desesperadas en Teherán en las últimas cuarenta y ocho horas,
y es un bombardeo masivo, y están matando indiscriminadamente.
Tenemos muchos estadounidenses, tenemos una sociedad muy particular.
Tenemos muchos estadounidenses que están diciendo: sigamos adelante,
viene el Armagedón. Este es el fin del mundo prometido. Estamos recibiendo
muchos informes de que esto se predica en el ejército. Estamos viendo a
mucha gente que cree que cuanto peor se ponga, más cerca estaremos de la
the closer we are to the second coming of Jesus Christ.
And that's a motivating factor in the United States, I have to tell you.
tengo que decirlo. Es una parte importante de la base del señor Trump.
Así que las malas noticias no son necesariamente un elemento de disuasión.
Puede simplemente significar una escalada hacia el Armagedón. Es una situación
It is a grim situation that we're in.
De hecho, no hemos visto nada parecido desde la Segunda Guerra Mundial.
Esto va incluso más allá de la guerra de Irak. Entonces tenían la,
They then had the, I won't say the dignity,
but they then had the impulse to hide the motivations.
Aquí no hay ningún impulso de ocultar las motivaciones. Es simplemente matar
It's just complete kill anybody and kill everybody
and overturn this society of 100 million people
and an ancient society of 5,000 years.
Así que es espantoso.- Profesor Jeffrey Sachs, lo he entrevistado muchas veces.
No creo haberlo oído hablar nunca con una emoción tan cruda,
pero le agradezco que haya vuelto al programa.- Nos dirigimos a la
Tercera Guerra Mundial, y estamos siendo dirigidos por gobiernos
extraordinariamente violentos en Israel y Estados Unidos. Y en un momento
And you'll hear a great defense in a moment by
a skilled Israeli diplomat, but what they are doing to the world
is absolutely unforgivable, and it will be recognized as such.
And it's a tragedy. That's why I didn't use the word homicide
homicidio cuando hablé con el señor Danon. Usé la palabra suicidio,
porque lo que está haciendo Israel es cometer suicidio.
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Original transcript (English)
It's a war and thousands are being killed. Israel and the United States are carpet bombing Tehran. And there's lots of death, schoolgirls being killed. A bloodbath underway. At the same time, the world economy is about to go into one of the biggest crises
in the modern period, driven by the complete collapse of oil supplies coming from this region, a predictable consequence of the Israeli-US aggression. So this is a calamity. This was a war of choice. Benjamin Netanyahu told us in a tweet last week, this fulfills a dream of 40 years.
This is a war not caused only by Israel. This is a joint Israel-US madness. The US wants to rule the world and Israel wants to rule its region, the Middle East, and they partner together. So it's not really right to say that Israel determined this
or the US determined this. This is a partnership. It was interesting that you had Tony Blinken on just a moment ago. He partnered in the genocide in Gaza. It was the same with his administration. A US-Israel partnership that goes back decades.
It has created a disaster around the Middle East. Absolute disaster from Libya to Iran, with many countries desolate and destroyed in between. And it now will create a disaster for the whole world. I know you're going to have Ambassador Danny Danon on after me.
He represents, in my view, a government that is doing more damage to the world and to humanity than any other government. He doesn't like my saying that, but that is actually the point. Together with his partner, the United States. Both of them are rogue nations led by megalomaniacs
creating havoc for the world, completely unnecessarily. I was saying that Israel is committing suicide because it is destroying any remnant of sympathy or empathy in the United States and all over the world. So I said that that suicide was tragic. We have polls, Pierce, that show that for decades,
US sympathy ran 60 to 70% for Israel, 15% for Palestine. Now they run 41% for Palestine, 36% for Israel. In other words, the American public is on the side of Palestine and that's going to grow dramatically.
What's going to happen, whether Mr. Danon or his colleagues like it or not, the world is going into a profound economic crisis in the coming weeks and months, and this is Israel's choice. Israel set this off together with the United States. The world will pay a fearsome price for this delusion,
and people will know where this came from. It's very, very sad. Very sad. - Is there... - It's suicidal for Israel. I'm not able to answer any definitive military judgment, but the people who are opining on this around the world believe that that is not the case, that Iran has held together and will continue to hold together,
has vast arsenals of missiles and drones, and we'll see, because this war is not ending in the next few days. And Israeli generals themselves have said publicly, this could go on into the fall, and the American public is being prepared for a long war. So even the progenitors of this war
are not claiming that this is about to be won. I don't hear that from anybody. I don't see it in the markets either, in the soaring oil prices. I don't see it in the behavior of the energy producers, suppliers, and shippers. I don't see it in the shutdown of production in Qatar on its gas
and Iraq on its oil, and the destruction of oil fields. I see a calamity building and a lot of blood flowing. It's a kind of mass murder of civilians by Israel and the United States. This is shocking, actually. We should keep it in mind. This is not targeted bombing.
This is carpet bombing Tehran. And I've been speaking on the phone with absolutely desperate people in Tehran in the last 48 hours, and it's carpet bombing, and they're killing indiscriminately. We have a lot of Americans, we have a very particular society. We have a lot of Americans who are saying, move on, this is Armageddon coming.
This is the promised end of the world. We are hearing lots of reports about this being preached in the military. We're seeing a lot of people who believe that the worse it gets, the closer we are to the second coming of Jesus Christ. And that's a motivating factor in the United States, I have to tell you.
It's a significant part of Mr. Trump's base. And so bad news is not necessarily deterrence. It may just mean escalation to Armageddon. It is a grim situation that we're in. We've not seen anything like it, actually, since World War II.
This is even beyond the Iraq War. They then had the, I won't say the dignity, but they then had the impulse to hide the motivations. Here there is no impulse to hide the motivations. It's just complete kill anybody and kill everybody
and overturn this society of 100 million people and an ancient society of 5,000 years. So it's dreadful. - Professor Jeffrey Sachs, I've interviewed you many times. I don't think I've ever heard you speaking with such raw emotion, but I appreciate you coming back on. - We're heading to World War III,
and we're being led by extraordinarily violent governments in Israel and the United States. And you'll hear a great defense in a moment by a skilled Israeli diplomat, but what they are doing to the world is absolutely unforgivable, and it will be recognized as such.
And it's a tragedy. That's why I didn't use the word homicide when I talked to Mr. Danon. I used the word suicide, because what Israel is doing is committing suicide.
