Transcript · Hindi → English
Discussion on Political Protests and Logic
This is our brother Sarthak. Who wouldn't know him? Apart from ideological
differences, we're both creators.
It was really nice meeting you.
Yes, mine.
Right?
I don't have any particular question for you. Okay. I just
want to ask how much logic do you see in this protest?
Which protest?
The one happening over vote theft.
Uh, logic—
I mean, in terms of if the Supreme Court had
said that yes, votes were stolen, and they still weren't removing Ganesh Kumar—
Yes.
Yes.
Then wouldn't it have made sense for you to take to the streets? I mean, once
the law and the courts had been allowed to do their job, and then if
the administration wasn't implementing it, and then people took to the streets,
wouldn't it have made more sense?
No, man, that's not how it works. If you say that, then
Whatever...
It proceeds under the law, like when you gave Kasab… You gave Kasab as well…
a trial, right, brother? Now if you say, no, only when Kasab says that—
no, only when the Supreme Court says Kasab committed terrorism, will you
consider him a terrorist? Or do you say about Kasab that at the point where he was caught,
at the point where there was proof, at the point where there were allegations, and in Mumbai,
police officers
were killed, that was enough for you, as a citizen, to believe that he
was the accused and that he, in fact, was a terrorist, but still, as a
constitutional country—
Sarthak, you too, brother.
We’ll accept it, brother. Still, as a constitutional country, you give him the
right
to represent himself in court.
But you believe that, yes, brother, something wrong happened here. Don’t you think? Don’t you agree?
I actually didn't understand this comparison. You're comparing Ganesh Kumar and Kasab
to
each other.
No, no, I'm comparing it to the fact that you
are saying that until
the court delivers a verdict on someone—
No, I'm not talking about a court verdict.
I'm saying if the court says this,
if even solid proof emerges that
yes, votes were stolen.
It won't let them off.
Even if solid proof emerges.
These men, two days ago—
You know, these guys had been following me
for an hour.
These men—
Had been following me for an hour. They filmed me, and when I called them
to come talk, they wouldn't even come forward.
Two days ago.
And now, now they've come. As soon as they saw Sarthak,
they came here.
Two days ago.
Wait.
Look, these are on your side. These are on your side,
brother.
Put up with them. They're on your side.
Look how
In between, look, a civilized rioter, terrorist.
Look at this, look. Do you see? This is what
I am talking about.
These are the kind of creators who are rioters.
Man, what is this? Where do these people come from, man? Two
minutes
You can't have a conversation with anyone.
Because these ignorant people are rioting terrorists.
Look, look, look at the face of the Left, look.
Once.
Absolutely.
This is the Left of India.
This is the Left of India. This man is anti-national, a rioter,
a terrorist, and he belongs in jail, and this Anand—
I am anti-national, a rioter, a terrorist, and I belong in jail.
These two old men will now tell me.
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Original transcript (Hindi)
ये अपने सार्थक भाई हैं। इनको कौन नहीं जानता होगा। apart from ideological differences we both are creators. काफी अच्छा लगा आपसे मिलके। जी मेरा। है ना।
मेरे आपसे कोई खास ऐसा सवाल है नहीं। ठीक है। मैं बस ये पूछना चाहूंगा कि इस protest में आपको कितना logic नजर आता है? किस protest में? ये vote चोरी को लेकर जो हो रहा है। अअअ logic-
In terms of, in terms of कि Supreme Court ने अगर बोल दिया होता कि हां vote चोरी हुई है उसके बाद भी गणेश कुमार को नहीं हटा रहे होते- हां। तब wouldn't it have made sense कि आप सड़कों पे आओ। मतलब एक
बार law और courts को अपना काम करने दिया जाता, उसके बाद अगर प्रशासन नहीं उसको implement कर रहा होता, उसके बाद लोग सड़कों पे आते तो wouldn't it have made more sense? नहीं यार, ऐसा नहीं होता। अगर आप ऐसे बोलो तो फिर तो जो जो
अअअ under law चल रहा है जैसे आप जब कसाब को भी तुमने, कसाब को भी trial दिया ना हमने भाई। अब अगर तुम बोलोगे नहीं जब कसाब अगर बोल देगा कि नहीं जब Supreme Court बोल देगा कि कसाब ने आतंकवाद किया है तभी तुम उसको आतंकवादी मानोगे। या कसाब को तुम बोलते हो कि जिस point पर वो पकड़ा गया, जिस point पर proof थे, जिस point पर allegation थे और जो मुंबई में
पुलिसवालों को मारा गया that was enough for you to as a citizen believe that he was the accused and he, and he was in fact a terrorist but still as a constitutional country- सर्थिक भाई तू भी।
ले लेंगे हमारे भाई। As still as a constitutional country you give him the right to represent your himself in the court. But you believe कि हां भाई यहां पे गलत हुआ है। Don't you think? Don't you agree? मैं actually में इस comparison का मतलब समझा नहीं। आप गणेश कुमार और कसाब को
compare कर रहे हो। नहीं, नहीं, मैं compare, मैं इस बात से compare कर रहा हूं कि आप कह रहे हो कि जब तक court verdict नहीं देगा किसी को-
नहीं, नहीं court verdict की बात नहीं कर रहा मैं। मैं कह रहा हूं कि court अगर ये बोल दे, अगर एक अअअ solid proof भी सामने आ जाए कि हां vote चोरी हुई है। छोड़ेगा नहीं।
Solid proof भी सामने आ जाए। ये आदमियों ने, दो दिन पहले- पता है ये, ये भाई मेरे को, ये भाई मेरे को एक घंटे से follow कर रहे थे। ये आदमी-
एक घंटे से follow कर रहे थे। मेरी video, मेरी video बनाई और मैंने जब इनको बात करने के लिए बुलाया ना तो आ भी नहीं रहे थे। दो दिन पहले। और अभी, अभी आ गए। अभी सार्थक भाई को दिखा इन्होंने तो आ गए यहां पे।
दो दिन पहले। रुक जा। देखो ये, ये आप ही की side के हैं। ये आप ही की side के हैं भैया। झेलो, झेलो इन लोगों को। ये आप ही की side के हैं।
देखो कैसे बीच, बीच एक civilized देखो दंगाई, आतंकी कैसे, कैसे ये देखो। देख रहे हो? ये है this is what I am talking about। तो ऐसे दंगाई creators हैं।
यार ये क्या है? ये कहां से उठ के आ जाते हैं यार ये लोग। दो मिनट किसी से भी conversation नहीं कर सकते। क्योंकि ये जाहिल लोग, ये दंगाई आतंकी। देखो, ये देख, देखिए, देखिए left का चेहरा देखिए एक
बार। बिलकुल। This is the left of India. This is the left of India. ये आदमी देशद्रोही है, दंगाई है, आतंकी है और इसकी जगह जेल है और ये आनंद-
मैं देशद्रोही हूं, दंगाई हूं, आतंकी हूं और मेरी जगह जेल है। ये बताएंगे अब। ये दो बूढ़े बताएंगे मेरे को।
