Transcript · Serbian → English
Survivor's Account of Srebrenica
And then that seventh of January came.
Every family had one male member fit for military service.
And Nasar, our commander, may glorious Allah
protect him and reward him against all the enemies in this world, said,
it was strictly ordered, women and children must not know.
They would ruin our
operation. Everything was planned. We would go in, seize it,
take out the food, feed those poor people in Srebrenica.
Then my brother-in-law said to me, "Fadila, we're going to Kravica tonight,
get ready." So every household, every family had
one male member who said, "We're going to Kravica," and Kravica was
America, the Promised Land to us. It was a strong Chetnik stronghold.
From there, they killed, looted, brought things back.
No one ever dared approach Kravica.
All the crimes were committed later, in the nineties, in Kravica.
And we get ready. During the night,
soldiers take up our positions, while the women and children form one
huge, huge column of women and children.
We enter Kravica,
we enter before a single shot is fired.
It's maybe 15 kilometers from Potočari to
Kravica, through the woods where we go. I'm in that group.
I have a son at home who will die of hunger if I don't bring him food.
Everyone has their children, everyone will for their own child.
And we enter that notorious Kravica,
and then it all begins. They
realize it's us. At that moment, naturally,
our fighters have to come to our aid.
That's where I experienced that hell,
hell on earth. When you see one person killing another, you don't know
who is who. You don't know who's a Chetnik and who's a Muslim.
You grab, you snatch. I entered a house.
I'll never forget that. They celebrate Christmas on January seventh.
All around, people are dying, all around, it's exploding. That's it.
It can't be described to anyone who wasn't there on January seventh in Kravica.
What panic!
So, the struggle is to catch that one chicken so that
you can take it home, slaughter it, eat it.
You'll survive for three days, then some new stroke of luck.
And not to mention the 50 kilos of corn that I brought
to last me until the end of the war. I thought, I planned.
So we enter a house. Chetniks
are sitting there celebrating. Piles of pork on the table. Who cares what pork is?
You've never eaten it, but you will. You'll eat anything, just, just to survive.
There are cakes, there are stuffed cabbage rolls. I hadn't seen stuffed cabbage rolls, then meat and
potatoes and cabbage.
You're a refugee. You have nothing to eat. You have no provisions.
You go for grain, you take off your jacket.
If you're mine, sell yourself for two or three kilos of grain to survive.
I go in too.
They're eating and drinking. There are men and women, older people too. There are younger Chetniks too.
There are some, you wouldn't even notice them. I remember one about your age.
Cheers. Give me some sarma, and I put one sarma from my hand into my mouth,
and the other one right in front of
her, into my pocket. Enes needs feeding at home.
That was my first encounter. You know,
those were horrific scenes. You have this feeling now that you don't know whether
to cry or rejoice. I mean, those are the feelings.
It's a feeling you can't describe. You understand.
It's fighting, fighting, simply fighting for survival,
for bare life.
At that moment, they don't know who you are.
They don't know, they're drunk, they're celebrating Christmas.
That Chetnik toasts me.
Come on, cheers, Merry Christmas to you, come on, let me eat.
Give me sarma, give me more to take home for the children.
And somehow, you survive that day. You can't go in anywhere.
Wherever you go, they say, "Go back. Everything's been taken. There's nothing."
People are dying. I don't know, a man looks at me and falls.
What a scene.
This is how you walk. There are masses, masses, masses of people surging toward
the houses. Kravica is enormous. There are several villages.
At one point, I feel a Chetnik sniper
firing from the church. I feel a bullet pass through my hair, I feel
my hair singe. But at that moment, a woman falls
in front of me, dead, looking at me.
Another, older woman approaches and says to her, "Fadila,
dear Fadila, dear, has she been hit? Whose child has she left behind?"
And then those are the moments when you think it's you.
I think I've fallen. I'm dead. Do you understand?
I think I've fallen. I'm dead. Do you understand?
Yes, you... you are Fadila.
Because I am Fadila. My husband was killed, and a child was left behind.
You have a child, yes.
My late mother begged me, “Don’t go, Fadila, you’ll be killed. Who are you leaving your
child with?”
And those are the moments when you think you’re dead.
A woman comes over, hugs her dead body and kisses it. The woman is dying.
Blood is coming from her mouth, Fadila says, “To whom?” A couple of soldiers come over,
saying we should move her off the road so it could be determined.
Fifteen years later, I will find out that it was Fadila
from
Plane, near Han Pijesak, who came
to Srebrenica with her child and husband. Her husband was killed.
At that moment, Fadila was killed in Srebrenica. And her child was left behind.
So, reality gets mixed up.
Reality gets mixed up with, with…
An indescribable state. You don’t know whether you’re in the afterlife
or on Earth, whether you’re in Hell or Paradise.
On mine.
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Original transcript (Serbian)
I onda je došao taj sedmi januar. Svi smo mi imali iz porodice po jednog muškog vojno sposobnog člana porodice. I Nasar, naš komandant slavni Alah da ga sačuva i nagradi od svih dušmana ovog svijeta, kaže, strogo je naređeno, ne smiju žene i djeca znati,
pokvarit će nam akciju. Sve je isplanirano. Mi ćemo ući zauzeti, iznijeti hranu, hraniti tu sirotinju u Srebrenici. Ma dešava se da meni moj djever kaže Fadila idemo večeras na Kravicu, spremi se. Tako da je svaka kuća, svaka porodica imala po
jednog člana muškog koji je rekao idemo u Kravicu, a Kravica je za nas bila Amerika obećana zemlja. To je četničko jako uporište. Odatle su ubijali, pljačkali, donosili. Nikad niko nije se usudio prići toj Kravici. Svi zločini su počinjeni kasnije devedesete u toj Kravici.
I mi se spremamo. U toku noći vojnici zauzimaju naše položaje, a žene i djeca jedna ogromna ogromna kolona žena i djece. Ulazimo u Kravicu, ulazimo prije ispaljenog metka ulazimo.
To je možda petnaestak kilometara od Potočara do Kravice. Preko tih šuma kuda mi idemo. Ja sam u toj grupi. Ja imam sina kod kuće koji će umrijeti od gladi ako mu ne donesem da jede. Svi imaju svoju djecu, svako će svom djetetu. I ulazimo u tu zloglasnu Kravicu,
a onda već dešavanje počinje. Oni shvataju da smo to mi. U tom momentu, normalno, naši borci moraju i priteći nama upomoć. E, tu sam doživjela onaj pakao, džehennem na ovom svijetu. Kad gledaš čovjek ubija čovjeka, ne znaš
tko je. Ne znaš tko je četnik tko je musliman. Grabiš, otimaš. Ušla sam u jednu kuću. To nikad neću zaboraviti. Sedmi januar oni slave Božić. Okolo se gine okolo se, to to puca. To je. To se ne može opisati onome tko nije bio sedmog januara u Kravici.
Kakva je to panika? Znači, borba je da uhvatiš onu kokoš jednu da odneseš kući, da zakolješ, da pojedeš preživjet ćeš tri dana, pa opet neka nova nafaka. A da ne govorim za pedeset kila kukuruza što sam ja donijela
da mi bude do kraja rata. Mislila sam planirala. I znači ulazimo u kuću jednu. Četnici sjede slave. Krmetine kamara na stolu. Tko te pita što je krmetina. Nisi je nikad jeo, ali jest ćeš. Sve ćeš jesti samo, samo da preživiš. Tu su kolači, tu su sarme. Ja nisam vidjela sarmu, pa ti meso i
krompir i kupus. Ti si izbjeglica. Ti nemaš šta da jedeš. Nemaš pruhe. Ideš za žito, skineš jaknu sa sebe. Ako si moj, prodaš za dvije tri kile žita da preživi. I ja ulazim.
Oni jedu i piju. Ima i muških i ženskih, ima i starijih. Ima i mlađih četnika. Ima nebi li primijenio. Jednoga sam zapamtila vaših godina onako. Aj živili meni i sarmu, a ja sarmu iz ruke jednu u usta, a drugu ispred nje u džep. Treba Enesa nahraniti kod kuće.
To je moj onaj prvi susret. Ono, to su užasne scene, to. Imaš takav osjećaj sad da ne znaš da li bi plakao ili bi se radovao. Mislim, to su osjećaji. To je osjećaj koji ne možete opisati. Shvatate. To ono borba, borba, jednostavno borba za opstanak,
za goli život. Oni u tom trenutku ne znaju da ste vi. Oni ne znaju, oni su pijani, oni slave Božić. On meni nazdravlja četnik. Aj živio, aj sretan ti Božić, ba daj da jedem.
Daj mi sarmu, daj još da djeci da ponesem kući. I taj dan se nekako preživljava. Ne možeš uđeš gdje god uđeš, kažu vraćaj se sve pokupeno, nema. Ginu ljudi. Ja ne znam čovjek gleda u mene, pada. Scena.
Ovako ideš. To su mase, mase, mase ljudi koji nadiru idu prema kućama. Ogromna je ta Kravica. Ima više sela. Jednog momenta meni osjećam z crkve puca snajper četnički. Osjećam kroz kosu da mi prođe metak da me osjetio da mi kosa zagori. Ali tog momenta pada
žena ispred mene, ali mrtva gleda me. I prilazi druga starija žena i kaže njoj Fadila sine Fadila sine jel to pogode kome dijete ostave. I sad to su momenti kad ti misliš da si to ti.
Ja mislim ja sam pala. Ja sam mrtva. Razumijete. Da, vi vi ste Fadila. Jer ja sam Fadila. Muž je poginuo, ostalo je dijete. Imaš dijete, da. A meni moja mama rahmetli moli nemoj Fadila otići, poginut ćeš kome ostavljaš
dijete. I meni su to su ti momenti kad vi mislite da ste mrtvi. Prilazi žena i grli je mrtvu ljubi. Žena izumire. Krv ide iz usta, kaže Fadila kome. Prilazi par vojnih momaka, kaže da je sklonimo s puta da bi se ispostavilo.
Ja ću to za petnaest godina saznati da je to Fadila iz Plane kod Han Pijeska koja je došla sa djetetom i mužem u Srebrenicu. Muž je poginuo. Ona je tog momenta ta Fadila poginula u Srebrenici. I njeno je dijete ostalo.
Znači, miješa se realnost. Miješa se realnost sa sa. Stanje neopisivo stanje. Ne znate vi jeste vi na hireti ili ste na Zemlji, jeste u Džehenemu ili ste u Dženetu. Na moju.